Planning Board / Board of Selectmen Meeting Transcript
June 11, 2026
Town of Berkley, Massachusetts

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A $100 fine if your phone rings during the meeting. Don’t want. Four minutes. We can start to hear. You’ve got all. I had a lot of fun. Oh, yeah. Oh. So once again. Oh, and. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Is this what. I’m reading? Yeah. Oh. For me, you know how much I like that.

What do you. All good things come for? It’s a long. Oh, we have. You can see here. That their intention is to locate a. 40ft. That’s bad. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s on wheels. So it’s gonna be on wheels. So it’s actually movable. So. Gotcha. Parking in the driveway. Oh, okay. I think they’ll. And I.

have. They’re okay. From the Board of Health. So they are good to go. You’re not. Bothering me here. Anyway. 051605. I don’t have a watch. 604. Try it. In. It’s a ten minute. 060604. One minute. I gotta turn down my phone so I don’t get fined. 100 bucks. Oh, bucks. That’s my whole pay. Oh, making that much?

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Does anybody know 605? I got it here. He’s got it. Seconds. 605. Right. Continuation of public hearing for Kathleen Perry, 91 North Main Street. To operate a home occupation business with vehicle traffic, per Berkeley zoning bylaw. Section 3.4.2. All right. We haven’t done anything on this yet. Right? We

have not. Okay. So we do have an application. Um, let me, uh. Do you lose it? I got I got it. Okay. Yeah, I have one here as well. Yeah. We’ve all got a copy, but let me just, uh. So the Berkeley Pink Planning Board will hold a public hearing in the council

and aging room. Town hall, one North main Street on. This is what’s happening right now. Why am I reading this? 605 to hear petition of Kathleen Perry, 91 North Main Street, for approval of special permit I. Berkeley Bylaws, article 21, section 3.4.2 Home Occupation special permit to allow sale of baked

goods with customer vehicle trips to the site in the residential zone. The application is available in the Town Clerk’s office, for viewing any person interested in, interested or wishing to be heard should appear at this time and place the designated. Oh that’s me. I’ll go via chairman. I want to read that. Okay, you can have that back.

Thank you. All right. Where do we start? Okay. We have. some photos. We have some photos of the, uh. prototype similarities. Yeah. Wow. So this is going to be a mobile car, right? Yes. Okay. So it’s on wheels. And what what kind of hours are you looking to to have this? Just. Probably just on the weekends.

You know, maybe every once in a while. Pop it up Thursday or Friday. But mostly, you know, towards the end of the week. Um, and I would say early morning. You know, so. Like seven, eight. To open. Yeah. Seven, eight to maybe 110, almost seven.

Okay. So do you want to kind of leave it open ended like seven days a week? Yeah, I. Could give you that flexibility to. Okay. Daylight hours. Right. Daylight hours. Yeah. Something like sunset. Yeah. Yeah. Good thing it. Okay. Take it easy. Stop it. Do you want to tell us just a little bit about what you want

to do? Um. So obviously, if you want to build that stand and put it at the end of the drive, you are closer to the end of the driveway. So we do have parking right there. Um, and just put sourdough bread, sourdough baked goods, cakes, cookies, things that are. Yeah, montage type items. Yeah. Um, granola,

things like that. Okay. So they can they’ll just walk up. It’s not. I’m not gonna man the stand and I’ll probably have a camera on it. Um, and how is that? Was out there? Which is. Like they do a long haul. Yeah. Basically, yeah. Yeah. Seems to be working for them.

They’ve been doing it for a long time. Yeah. The driveway is, um, 22ft wide by almost 70ft. So my garage and then they’ll be my personal vehicle is parked on the side of the garage for our personal vehicles, parked in front of my house. So the driveway is completely open to customer

traffic. So there’s no there’s at least room for eight spots of people in the park, in the driveway. And there’s no backing out. No, of. Um. We also have the other driveway, too. We have another driveway on the side of the garage that they could use if they needed to.

So. And the stand being mobile? Um, we can put it wherever the planning board. How far away from the road? I like the Jeb. Yeah, that’s that’s actually perfect. Yeah, yeah. Keeps keeps people from parking in the street. And then would you have a little sign, like, up by the road, like. Yeah. Collapsible sign. Yeah. Perfect.

Yeah. People know that. Yeah. Yeah. Open plan. Yeah. Well, I can’t wait. I was thinking the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. I think we’re excited to see something like this come to town. Perfect. Perfect for the town of Berkeley. Yeah. Perfect for. Gluten allergies. Yeah. Me too. Perfect for a guy with a sweet tooth.

I don’t know any other questions from the board? Um, they provided. They’ve gone through the Board of Health. Everything’s all set with them. They’ve gotten everything they needed. Um. I can’t think of anything else that we need to address on this. We have conditions. Already written.

Correct. Uh, we have a we have a draft of things. Yeah. Is there anyone here to speak for or against the project? No. Okay. Okay. Never got kind of nice. Okay. Um, I think they have provided everything that we have asked for. Everything that is needed for the town. And I

would like to make a motion to approve the special permit for a home occupation for 91 North Main Street for Kathleen Perry. I have a motion. Second. A motion and a second. Any discussion? I see none. Call the vote. Ungar. I read your. I oliveras. I, Larry, I. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you.

We’ll get the decision in to the town clerk. Hopefully. Um, well, Monday’s is the earliest I can get it in now. And then there’s a 20 day appeal period, and. Um. Don’t feel good also. Thank you. Okay, thanks. Once that’s done, you just have to record it at the Registry of Deeds.

Okay, but we’ll walk you through it. At that point. Thank you very much. Good luck. That’s all right. Okay. Thank you. Just let us know the first day you’re opening. Yeah. Yeah. See all archives. Yeah. You might want to put a little extra in for day one. Yeah. Put these back. Okay, so.

I’ll just send the application to you. All right. So we can go over that. I’ll sign that document later. I’ll get. You. That one. Got it. Okay. Okay. That’s a good thing to have. Hope it goes well. Yeah. Am I moving on? You are? Yeah. What is that here? We should do that. Okay. I’ll take a motion.

I’ll make a motion to close the hearing for 91 North Main Street. I have a motion. Second motion and a second. Any discussion? I see none. Call for help. All right. All right. Hi. Hi. And it is 609612. What are you reading? Oh six. I was looking at that clock. Don’t look at that. Clock.

Okay. All right. Next on the agenda is to meet with MassDOT and TDC to discuss conceptual pedestrian safety recommendations for the Berkley Middle School. Berkley Common Corridor. Master year, OT week program. That’s a good idea. I’m missing the Board of Selectmen is the only thing.. You got one. You got one on a pocketbook. You should be fine.

Technically. Technically, they’re on for 615. Are they on here? Two. So we have Kevin de Andrade, who’s here from TC incorporated. He’s helping out with, uh, technical assistance on this program. Um. So. Your clicker is activated. Kevin, whenever you’re ready, and I will, uh, the only thing

I’d say is, why don’t we wait for the chairman of my board so that they can actually come into open. Session around here. We’ll try to compete with baked goods, though. No, no, you. Definitely can’t. Yeah. I think I’ll be there. Well. Well well. Go ahead and. Pick 15.

We’re not. We’re not waiting again. We already waited once. Two minutes, three minutes. True. This pen is terrible. Thank you. There we go. Did you guys get the Pledge of Allegiance already? No. All right. I’ll call this meeting of the board selectmen to order at 6:15 p. m. on June 11th, 2026. And the Council on Aging.

Would you please stand so close? For the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Amen. The only thing we have on our agenda is our joint discussion with Berkeley’s Planning Board and TDC, Inc. conceptual pedestrian safety recommendations from the

Berkeley Middle School, Berkeley Common Corridor from the MassDOT week program. Good evening. Thank you. Board of selectmen. Planning board. My name is Kevin Dandridge. I’m a principal of tech. Uh, we’re a consulting engineering firm working with Massachusetts Department of Transportation. Uh, online is Leah Pickett from the Office of Transportation

Planning. Um, and what I’d like to do is just orient you to some thoughts about early ideas about, uh, multimodal or different ways of walking, biking, etc. to connect different places within your town center. Um, to try to make it safer for those that are already doing so.

If it doesn’t like it, then I will click over on that. I can do that. Okay, there we go. Um, uh, the town was successful in receiving a grant from MassDOT, and their planning group for what’s called the lead program. It’s the local early stage, actionable planning program. Uh, this is a program that looks at providing

essentially state funded assistance to towns. Uh, to be able to do early planning, to be able to get projects off the ground, to conceptualize things, to get ideas flowing. Uh, so that you’re enabled with information or consulting, uh, to be able to move projects forward. Uh, this grant was

awarded in part because of an organic desire, uh, really fueled by your middle school students. Uh, to look at a safer way to connect the middle school with the town common. Uh, we recently met with the students with, uh, Mr.. On line. This is, um, gosh, probably about six weeks ago

now, eight weeks ago. Um, we’ve really been engaged since February. Uh, in making visits here both during winter and spring. And now on the onset of summer. Um, to look at different ideas, to try to connect people and places in your town center. Uh, but I love the fact that I was very

impressed with the students initiative as part of their civic engagement to identify something like this, and I look forward to hopefully seeing them in our industry someday. Um, because it’s that type of advocacy that helps get good things done. Uh, our work under contract, MassDOT, uh, is one

to help initiate projects to help form those ideas. Um, but I’m going to give a brief presentation. But, um, the most important thing for us to do and need to do is to be in listening mode. You know, we might present some ideas, but really, to hear from you and from the public for what you

need and how you like to use town center, how you want to use town center. Uh, it and maybe it’s different in the future. If certain facilities were in place. Uh, separate from the work that we’re doing. The town was able to secure a separate earmark from the state to do something that was compatible and consistent with

what we’re talking about this evening. Uh, the town has already embarked on doing some field service and topographic survey and property research between the middle school and North Main Street here. That really complements, uh, what you’ll hear this evening. The focus area, um, is really right out in front of us, out these windows. Um, but everywhere

from the middle school to the Boondocks restaurant, the the market, the library here at Town Hall and then further locations to the south, such as the Congregational Church in Sanford Street, or even further to the community school. Here’s what we’ve heard to date. Um, and again, as we try to be in

listening mode from a planning perspective to make sure that we are trying to adapt to the things that we understand from the town and from people that use this infrastructure of roads and sidewalks. And, uh, town commons and parks every day. Uh, there was a pretty unified desire to try to

connect to Barclay Middle School with the convenience store, the town Common and the library. Whether it’s the current library or the future site for the library. Uh, we also understand that there’s several events that are on the town common that require kind of overflow parking at the middle school, where it’d be nice to have a connection.

And likewise for town meeting to be able to use this as overflow parking. But right now, there’s not a off road sidewalk connection or path connection to get from A to B. We also know that there was a desire to try to connect from, say, this facility further south along North Main and South Main to

get down to Sanford Street and the church as an initial link. Now, what’s unique about this opportunity is this is really a chance to start a network of sidewalks in Berkeley. Um, it’s a really unique case where you have a beautiful town center, a wonderful open space all around. And if there’s a way

that we can help with some of our ideas, make it safer, more accessible, usable than great, we’ve done our job. But we’re talking about just stuff that’s at the 50,000 foot level for ideas that hopefully generate interest. Long term, we understand that there would be. A desire.

To try to connect all the way down to the community school. Um, I’ll show you a series of images. Um, but trying to start with what’s in the core area and then move out like spokes of wheels. Uh, the first image. And just to let everybody know, this actually two sets at the

back of the room. There’s three different sheets. Um, that I’m going to leave with the town this evening. Um, this is just a clip from one of those images, really, just to start to formulate some ideas. What’s shown in yellow and the Berkeley middle schools in the upper left. But to create a

path or a widened sidewalk that goes from that side entrance of the school, that really follows what’s an informal walking connection today for a number of students? That then passes through. Um, the cemetery and then with the destination of either being the convenience store and market or getting out

towards the town common and the library, what’s shown is something that would formalize that informal connection. Try to create something that, um, whether it’s, uh, you know, a firm, unpaved surface or a paved surface, something that’s of a width that can accommodate pedestrians and bicyclists. Uh, that. weave through the area with as minimal impacts as we

can make it. But one of the other things we’ve heard from the town staff was that, um, trying to have a buffer against the, uh, highway department facilities here. So anything that might go through this area, it might be complemented with fencing to more or less keep people on the path where

they should be. But understanding that there’s a couple different destinations in that area, one might go down to the parking lot for those that are truly destined for the the market, but there’s an opportunity to try to stay up above grade, above that retaining wall to the side of

the parking area, and then get down to North Main Street, uh, where there’s a couple other opportunities that could then take a right and come down to Town Hall as what might be an initial segment to connect people in places. What’s shown in the purple color could be a separate phase. Uh, to try to

go, uh, you know, what’s the cross over to the opposite side of North Bay Street? Really? To try to connect up to what might be that future library site, uh, up that edge of Locust Street. Okay. Apart from the sidewalk, facilities are past facilities. We also saw an interesting opportunity to try to calm

traffic and consolidate different traffic movements that I’ll show you a specific slide about in a moment. But then other sidewalk networks and it’s a different view now, you know, at the town hall, we’re here at the lower middle portion of the image. Fire and police are right next to us on

the left. So it’s just a view looking out in front of us on the town common. You can see that same purple color going up the side of Locust Street to get up towards the always stop at border. That could potentially serve that future library site in the corner.

Another opportunity that we heard was that for the people that use the town common, there could be an opportunity where because there’s not a lot of sidewalks in Berkeley, and if somebody wanted to exercise but have a safe place to do it, you could come and park in the middle of the common and do

several laps of what’s shown in red to try to recreate, and also provide, you know, access to the basketball fields, the baseball fields, etc. and make it Ada accessible. Sidewalks don’t have to be in a straight line, so they could have a meandering, um, layout to try to avoid, you know, these

beautiful street trees out here. Um, that’s part of some future, more detailed design process. Um, but I see a great opportunity and us as a team with MassDOT and our firm, DC, we saw a great opportunity to to start that network, but also to use this as an opportunity for those that want to be able

to exercise and walk around. But that could be a case where this minimal impacts conflicts with traffic as another future forward looking initiative could be to go further to the south. So it’s shown in that blue color would be going from Town Hall here to the south to

the end of North Main Street, and then on to South Main. Uh, what’s shown in the upper right is another potential opportunity to kind of reconfigure, uh, the roadways and the traffic control at that intersection. And I’ll show you that in more detail on a moment. And finally, the last segment, which is also, in my opinion,

the most challenging, uh, not only because of its length, but because of roadside, uh, impacts. There’s a lot of street trees. There’s a stream crossing. Uh, and, uh, a number of properties. But to go from, say, uh, Sanford Street south to, um, the community school, um, that is a great opportunity

to connect more vulnerable pedestrians with town center. And again, uh, we added a number of notes and I’m going to leave, um, a number of the 11 by 17 copies. Uh, after the meeting, uh, that’s an area to where? Down closer to the community school. You might not see it every day, but.

Yeah, just up from the intersection. There’s actually a lot of ledge, uh, where constructing a sidewalk or path would have, you know, potential challenge. It’s not earth shattering, but it’s something that has to be considered as far as which segments you might want to construct first. So when we look at the traffic flow

considerations, um, the Regional Planning Commission survey had done some free traffic accounts for the town that we put our hands on and look at the different trends, uh, as I’ve spent more time in town with different site visits. Um, and talk with Matt and others. You know, there’s

that clear primary traffic flow that goes from Portal Street to South Main Street. Um, and then over to Dighton eventually. But that, you know, commuter route, I’ll call it, you know, that kind of comes through right now. Porter Street, as you know, comes to a stop. Uh, but that is one of the primary flows at that intersection.

There’s an opportunity to do something similar to what I showed up at the, uh, local street end of North Main, where you could potentially create a T intersection and have Porter and South Main be the free flow. It actually improves the level surface of the intersection and then makes purposeful, slower turning movements to get on to the

section of North Main right in front of us here. Uh, and meanwhile adds green space, uh, to each edge of the intersection. Just ideas for now, but ones that we saw as opportunities to, um, provide improvements not only from traffic flow or traffic safety, but also, uh, the unique opportunity to add green space when typically projects are

looking at pumping out. This is something that could kind of do an intersection diet on. Again, you know, for just a closer zoomed in view of North Main and Locust right now in front of the market and just down in front of the library, you have three distinct intersections, all of which have multiple

conflict points with traffic turning here or there. Uh, there’s an opportunity to try to create a T intersection where Locust would come in to one location. You know, this is just shown as a sketch that could be here. It could be down here. But you have a significant area where you

could pick the thread between trees, Park space, landscape, space to be able to again add significant amounts of green space and limit conflicts. Uh, right in front of, um, on one corner of the town common. Uh, this again is an opportunity that, you know, as a traffic and transportation engineer, I

look at where this is, again, another opportunity to calm traffic, organize traffic movements, but also reduce the number of places that pedestrians have to look to cross the street. So those are just a couple ideas, both in, you know, different segments of projects. Or those segments could be tweaked to start or stop at a different point.

Um, but I’d love to hear from the Selectboard, Planning Board and the public. Any initial reactions or thoughts about is there some other way that you would like to use these roadways as a walker or a biker? Uh, are there special needs or types of infrastructure improvements that we have described? Um, and, you know, other places

you’d like to connect that maybe outside town center. Uh. But this is the part where I’d love to be in listening mode and hear from all of you for your initial thoughts. Thank you. I think for years we’ve wanted to connect the two schools and the common. The only other, uh, place of recreation we have in

town would be up on, uh, Anthony Street. The ball fields. You know, getting the kids riding their bikes to the games and away from the games. Mm. Okay. Yeah. That’s not built up enough over there either for that. No, you’d have to go local. If anything, I’d have to.

Yeah. So this is the only part of town where it makes sense right now. Right. And this would certainly be the area of the greatest concentration of people where you’d have that activity. Um, and you might find that it really is a catalyst for interest in people saying, you know, I’d love to help support

a sidewalk going down North Main for further south meeting. Uh, once they see how people can use. It, we get a lot of requests. So year after year, the eighth grade civics project is always, how do we get a sidewalk in Berkeley? Yeah. Um, a lot of our elderly senior residents want a safe place to walk.

You know, they don’t like walking on the common because it’s rough and it’s not flat enough. Um, so there’s we do get a that is a massive effect that we can get is a place for them people to walk or recreation area and safety for the kids. Um, anybody from the public want to.

Buy cheap. Um, so this is the first time I’ve had a chance to actually see the plan. Um, very much in favor of the change to the intersection at North Main, South Main, and Porter Street. Um, I have a lot of concerns with the intersection at Locust and North Main and taking away that cutoff from around the

front of the library. It could lend itself to a lot of issues with our apparatus getting into accidents. Trying to make that corner up, to respond to calls, especially with larger apparatus, like our ladder truck and our tanker and stuff. So I have a lot of concerns about. Plus it also changes the

angle of it where you’re almost creating an offset, where people are still going to try to come out of the gas station and go across the Locust Street, and it may cause even more accidents. So I do have a lot of concerns with that. Under the common in general, I like the idea, but that that

intersection is to have a lot more thought put into it. Would you be more comfortable if it came in here as. Somewhere further down somewhere? Because the the, the ladder truck is a 42 foot piece of apparatus that requires a large area to turn. So like even turning in front of a

library right now we’re going into the opposing lane just to make it down Locust Street to get to the the four way intersection. So yeah, that intersection is a mess already. Yeah, it means like we’re doing the best we can with what we’ve got, and we’ve made the best of that little pathway in front of the

library. But if we’re going to be revamping and looking at new ideas, I think, um, doing something with that entire intersection as well, we definitely need to be a priority. Yeah. You’re talking about that locust. Yeah, that one right there. That one. Okay. Yeah. The other, the other end of the comment. I think that’s a great

idea. And I feel like that’s a much better at flow, because I can’t tell you how many times my apparatus is responding to calls down North Main of South Main and people coming off of Florida Street just coming right in front of us because they can’t see to their right.

So for us to have the stop sign and approach the intersection at a different angle, it’ll make them come to a stop to let us go. So I, I completely agree. with the one on the other end, but like I said, that’s this one needs a little bit more. Yeah, we to adjust.

That and maybe we’ll, we’ll coordinate with you directly to take a look at a revision to that. And the only other concern I have, but I think you brought it up was um, on the back where you kind of crossed the back of the ball field. It definitely needs to be some type of

definite more privacy fencing than an open fence, just because I know last year when we had all the vehicles that we auctioned off all of those vehicles from sitting for so long were vandalized. Um, so if you leave that area open and unfortunately, I hate to say it, but when kids see that

stuff, they, um, tend to gravitate. You know. Shenanigans. Um, so because, like, all those vehicles, half of them, the windows were smashed out of them and those pots taken off the road and like, it just and those weren’t even viewable by the public for the most part. So yeah, just the kids coming through the woods.

And I think similarly, um, for the access through the cemetery, there’s there’s potential ways to just have a slightly longer route to get around, uh, with fencing and potentially both sides, if it means, you know, inviting less of that in that area. It’s just that it’s that bottom you can see the end of the

highway or the second highway building that to your left. If we look across, that’s all grass right there. But the highway department stores, a lot of, um, equipment, materials, old equipment, there’s a lot of stuff that sits over there and it tends with a visible. It tends to get vandalized and stolen, unfortunately.

So. Yeah. Fencing does a good job at just kind of hurting people where they should be. And you know, if they’re going to hop the fence, which if they’re physically able to do that, then, you know, it’s just trying to have a deterrent. Yeah. Um, for something like that and something that we’ve

routinely added for something like this, that’s a new connection. But trying to avoid the nuisance factor. Yeah. And I like how the fence goes all the way to the highway department across the back of the cemetery, all the way down to and separates the cemetery from the highway department.

Question on the proposed ten foot, uh, shared line path that would be up on the retention wall. So, um, that’s an opportunity where, uh, it might involve other private property owners. You know, there might need to be easements. Um, they would likely need to be easements, either.

With.. So you’re thinking maybe we need to come inside of that wall. Correct. If really? Because, um, for those that want to go to the library or town common, uh, to not have them go in between parking maneuvers in the parking lot. At the. Oh, I agree. Yeah. No, I, I understand what you’re saying.

I just didn’t know if maybe going out by the other side would have been better. Yeah. Then they got to cross the parking lot twice., and there’s the potential where that yellow line could have a series of different alignments to try to connect to.

And B, this was just our first shot at it. Yeah. That would be the most direct. Um, but there’s certainly others like some alternatives of options for how you move them around. Um, but the idea would be, you know, something that’s ten feet wide can accommodate both walkers and bikers. Um, in

general, depending on the the type of planning that we may pursue in the future. And, uh, the town has this wonderful earmark that’s out there that can be used. Um, and it’s federal funding. And with that comes certain, um, processes. Um, that would be necessary to secure rights for the, the

facility. However it may go through. Um, but, uh, if there’s future endeavors for other worldly segments that might get advanced through, like the dot process. Mhm. Um, they take a very close look at what’s called the Complete Streets road. So bikers, um, pedestrians, uh, a transit in

the area, which is a very little here. But then cars and trucks. So it’s looking at how to accommodate all those in what’s called the multi-modal environment. With that. Um, there’s a very strict requirement that Dot has for those that go through that process where they would really

want to check the box in both bikes and pedestrians. So that’s where depending on the funding source that you may use. And this is part of our coaching with the town that’s still in front of us. Um, for these days, to provide some guidance for, uh, different avenues for funding state and

federal, um, or how you might plan for in your local capital improvement plans. Uh, but it could be as simple as a 5 to 6 foot wide sidewalk, whether it’s asphalt or concrete. Um, but you could have a sidewalk with a grass buffer, which is more friendly for comfortable.

I’ll say, for those that are walking along a busy road that’s operating at a higher speed. But if you were to go for something, that would be trying to get up on the Transportation Improvement Program type list at the state, that’s where they probably want a separate facility that might

be like ten feet wide. As you can imagine, when we look at the section that goes, uh, further south on South Main Street, there are a number of different properties, a ton of street trees that are very large and very close to the road. So the the note I had was, you know, you’d probably

have to consider something like a shared east path that’s a little bit wider to accommodate those users. But if you wanted to save those street trees that are really that property of the road, you might have to go a little further into those properties if you try to construct it. Just different

considerations. Um, but that section is, you know, not as clear as far as, um, uh, how many different impacts there could be. Um, and that’s why we called it segment five. But the town could elect to kind of reorder those in any particular way, that fashion. Uh, but it was just our initial pass at

what might connect the dots and create a sequential, uh, connectivity of these facilities into the future. So I, I agree with you, uh, chief, on what you’re saying about local street in North Main Street. However, is there a way we could, uh, keep that pass through for you for emergency vehicles only and change that? Because that

intersection is terrible. It might even be a matter of finding a way where that, um, that intersection comes out more like a halfway point between where it comes up now and where that turnaround is. So there’s more of a squared off t intersection of my vehicles to be able to turn onto.

The only reason I’m saying this is because what this would actually do for the common is break North Main Street off to be more of the common. Yes, instead of, um, that just it’s just a fast road right now. And with the change over at North Main, South Main, and uh, Porter, it would just make this

piece of North Main a little, maybe less traveled. Yeah. I felt like it would definitely changing that intersection down to the south end of the common. I feel like would probably slow down a lot of your big truck traffic. I agree, and it’s opposite of what I thought should have

happened there. But what I’m seeing now, it makes sense. Yeah, because it like and when we have stuff on the common like uh, the lights on and different stuff, we close this road. So that would even make easier. Yes, make it. Even easier. But I think that road in front of a block in front of the

library should be an emergency vehicle road. I just talked to the house today. Robin, 32 Bogus Street, because we have salt trucks, sand trucks, our own trucks to LP trucks that also have, um, the wood chips and also that behind them, all kinds of different trucks that are coming through into the highway department, which is right

there. Mhm. So these are also a lot of other large vehicles that are not just going to be emergency, but you wouldn’t be able to cut through there. And they have difficulty going through that section if there isn’t some sort of improvement, especially with it being like near the gas station and all

that stuff for everybody coming out of there. I think that’s a concern I would have as well. Yeah. What I can tell you is that, you know, the sketches that we have here, um, is really just that. But when it goes through a design phase, we made sure that it would accommodate the fire department’s vehicles and

anybody else that we see as users at the intersection to make sure that the, the, the truck radii is the. Yeah, that’s that’s quite a switchback right now. Yeah. You’d have to open that up. So it’s, it’s something that would go through a, you know, a very purposeful design process to make sure that it’s accommodate different moves.

Some things that we’ve done in the past, um, to try to help some of those larger vehicles. Um, and I understand your concern about this particular geometry that’s shown in the upper right. Um, but sometimes you’ll do is what’s called the truck apron, where it’s, a, um,

a cement concrete area that is just a wider area that can allow for the the tracking of a larger truck that looks different than the regular pavement that typical cars don’t drive over, but it could be afforded. To that available. To the other trucks. Um, again, just an idea. Um, but things

that we can take a much closer look at with you. Yeah. Yeah, we’re doing something with that corner. I think we just need to fix it, because it’s even right now. I mean, if I go to pull out of the boondocks, you gotta have your wits about you. You got to see how fast the person is coming

from you left, because that’s kind of a blind corner. Who’s gonna cut you off from the. And make sure nobody’s coming out with the library area. And you better make sure your car goes. Exactly. Yeah. One of the other considerations up there is access to the bank, too. So, yes.

You know, it requires a closer look in, you know, how it flows in and out. Um, between there and boondocks. But I think long story short, there’s probably some geometry in there that can better organize traffic or reduce conflict points for cars and pedestrians and add a ton of green space to, you know, yeah, to the edges..

I might and I don’t know how how the funding works, but there might also be an opportunity to work with the bank in the boondocks to, uh, possibly, um, reconfigure their driveway and parking. Absolutely. So, like the driveway would be. On the other side. Of the bank. That’s. Yeah. I thought that’s where it should have been.

Anyway, to make that straight. Through, I always seem like it should have been that way. Yeah, definitely. And there’s always grant money for improvement that we can chase, too. When it comes to roadways and transportation. There’s a lot of that stuff out there. So, um, it’s definitely something that could be feasible for us at some point.

That would make it easier to to reconfigure the end point of location where it comes out on the North Main. Yeah. That would also make it easier to like we talked about making the road through the middle a parking lot, putting that gate on the other side. Yeah. And just really blocking the

comment off to the the town buildings. Yeah. I do have a different concern besides. So the walking path first, I hope it’s going to be lit up. Um, definitely would need a fence because I myself had taken a nasty case to get out of trucks that they said, oh, we thought we could be in

them, but they just wanted us around. They. So this is a very concerned it’s also concerned that they may just say, hey, let us just walk through the highway parking lot. And that is an extremely dangerous area to be. We’ve got trucks going in and out at all times, especially at that time, school

that’s out because they’re coming back to the brush, away. Um, and also with these paths and sidewalks, how would they be maintained? Because we do not have staff, and obviously we all know that the staff can cut even further or equipment to do sidewalks with the school. If you went out to

school and then down to the schools already maintained their sidewalk, and then would only have to maintain a little bit more sidewalk. So what are we doing with all these past in the woods down and everywhere else? But there will be no way to maintain them and no way to allow them.

Yeah. We often hear, you know, that comment is something that town would have to ultimately figure out. But what I can tell you is that something like a shared use path that’s ten feet wide, um, that has like a movable baller at each, um, you take

the ball out and you could put that up. You could do with a flower. So you do that without having a sidewalk for you to do it with a regular truckload. By the time. You know who’s actually going to do it has to be a plan in place, because the Highway Department did not. To. No, I.

Do, I understand that, but I also think that, you know, there’s concern. Right. Now with the students who will just walk through the highway department, right? So if there’s. Liability on either end. Right. Whether they’re walking through or we have to figure out how we’re gonna maintain. And I think that’s important to think about.

Yeah. To town meeting. I was I was looking out the door and I was like, what is in the woods? I thought I was seeing deer. It wasn’t a bunch of kids just in the woods behind the highway department all over the place. I know that this does give some level of response, more

responsibility with maintenance. Um, in everything we ever want to implement does right? Like, there’s there’s always going to be some additional responsibility that goes along with any kind of growth and development. Um, I think this one is going to be minimal, I really do. I think

that we, you know, we as a town are working together to try to to pull back to our foundations and build ourselves back up from there and just stick with minimal things. And sometimes doing something that appeases the public like, this is something we’ve actually gotten a ton of engagement with, like

more than anything else really has been about a sidewalk in a safe space in the comment and walking path. And since we have the federal money for it, um, I think it we definitely do need to plan for it, but I don’t want the thought of plowing it

a few times a year, or the maintenance of it to be something that, like, shuts down the project, you know what I mean? I just want to I do want to be mindful of it. But, um, at the same time, I do want to have conversations about the realistic ness of it going forward and potentially do

doing something decent for everyone. And I do appreciate the fact that that will be a nice area and all that, but I’m just saying the plan in place because there is no staff to do that agree will be called. There’s tree down on the path, is this on the path is that

they’ll they’ll be coming to me and calling me because trust me, they’ll call me about everything. Yeah, yeah. And there will be nobody to do it. You’re not going to take it on. Yeah. Yeah. So there’s just no staff for it already. This last meeting. Yeah, yeah. Put the kids out. There, right? Yeah. No, I.

Put them out there. I gotta have them shovel it. Yeah, I do like the fence. We’re gonna get there that we can block off the entire highway department. That that is going to be done. I feel like no matter what we do, sometimes, it’s always a problem. Like, okay, we’re frustrated because the kids are

walking into the highway department and there’s a safety risk, right. So okay, so let’s write this grant to get this money to help find a walking path. But now we have to figure out, like how are we going to maintain it. Right. There’s always something that we have to. Figure out. Always plausible. Yeah I feel like.

I’ve always. Something material. And construction. Uh, as far as maintenance goes, I mean, somebody else might have a different opinion, but I feel like asphalt would probably be the path of least resistance for being able to maintain it. Yeah, it’s responsible for. Yeah. So in New England just doesn’t last. Yeah. I’m sorry. Okay.

Go through any city that has concrete sidewalks and every rail is a joint lifted and sunk. And at least the asphalt, it’s easier to repair and maintain. Um, but I also like the idea of that coming through the woods, because, um, most people don’t realize. But, um, a lot of our evacuation plan

talks a bit. If it was ever, um, like a major catastrophe at the school is for the kids from the middle school to actually walk through that path that exists now, to walk basically where that fence line is going to be through the highway garage and come to the Public safety building to meet the

buses to be brought back home. If you know, there’s ever like a fire of some type of a major incident with the school gets shut down. So having an actual legitimate path for them to walk to get to the public safety buildings and make it to that access point is, is a really good thing.

Yeah, that was actually a huge concern during that active shooter tabletop we did back then, because our escape route for our students was run through the woods, right. Like that was it. It was like, oh no, it was like, this isn’t gonna work out. So, um, yeah.

And I think too, with some of the aspects that you brought up, the, you know, having an asphalt surface is actually better for winter because as the sun hits the blacktop, it heats up better to melt. What’s on there if there’s any residual after snow clearing. But the other thing is, you know, the alignment of the

path. You know, we showed it kind of curving here and there. But, uh, if the nuisance factor is an increased concern, you could essentially go from the corner near the school and create a straight line from here to here. So that, you know, one of the school staff members could stand at the

corner and we could visually see up the path the whole way. If it was a straight line, you know, and then once they get over beyond, then to create lines of sight that don’t create pockets where nobody can see. So I mean, there’s different options there that might help with that. Idea. Well. Yeah.

Mhm. Could we look at a little bit of a different area. The where the South Main takes that turn and the crosswalk. There. Uh closer to the community school. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Right there. Um what. Kind of like, like I, I maybe I’m off but what kind of like line of sight with that crosswalk because I’m thinking

coming over the crest of that hill from the right and direction. It would be very, um, limited. I vision to see where where that crosswalk is. It’s certainly an area that needs a lot closer look, you know, as far as sight lines. Yeah. But, um, even without the crest of the curve there, um,

just the volume of traffic, it would likely be a candidate for some sort of pedestrian warning device. Um, yeah. Okay. And I, I, I don’t know if I put a clip in one of the images, but they call them rectangular rapid flashing beacons. It’s essentially a device that’s dark, except for when a person

pushes the button. Yeah. And then the lights start to illuminate just as an extra notification to drivers that somebody is there. There’s much better compliance when people stopping versus just a regular static signs. Um, the green yellow pedestrian signs. Um, but there’s also the potential to add a higher level of device that is actually a regulatory

device that eventually turns red, but it’s dark most of the time until you push it. Um, that device is called a hybrid beacon. Um, you might see them in and around. I bet you there’s a couple in Taunton, but, um, essentially, it’s a higher level of control, but something that requires motor

vehicles to stop, that’s all well in front of us, but the idea is more or less the connectivity from A to B, but this is certainly a section of the road that has significant challenges, including what you just described. Yeah. Is there like opportunity to move it? That’s what I was. In and of.

It, you know, to the other. Side, to the other side of South Main Street. There is that potential. And I think, um, you know, when I look at things like this, if it might be something that there’s a correction in the crest of the road, you know, that the,

the road geometry is corrected in addition to something like this. Um, um, but I also look at the risk factors of if you cross them to the other side of South Main Street, you go around the corner and ultimately have to cross that same stream of traffic again to get to the school front. So in

my mind, I always like to cross once and do it in a robust way. Yeah. Um, instead of making multiple, um, zigzags across different roadways. But your point is well taken that that is something that needs a real cute look at it. Okay. What occurs there? Yeah. Yeah, I agree with pushing that further away from

the crest of the hill. Is that why it makes that, um, that kind of zigzag past the actual intersection of the old self-manage, because you’re trying to get the crosswalk up on the top of, uh, the crest of the hill. So it’s. A little bit, but it’s also to try to create the shortest

crossing. So given the radius of the curve there on the edge of the intersection, uh, we like to hit it’s also part of the Ada requirements and Architectural Access Board is trying to create, um, uh, curb ramps, uh, 80 ramps that are as perpendicular to each other as possible.

Okay. So these are early thoughts, um, you know, uh, wonderful input so far. Um, and I’m happy to, to take more input. The other thing we can do, too, is I’m going to leave 20 copies of 11 by 17 versions of these, in addition to the big ones at the

back of the room. So if anybody wants to take one and do it all on it, you know, please give them that and back and share that with us. Um, but we love it when, um, we can get as much input as we can. It just makes our job easier, more knowledgeable. Um, and ultimately becomes a product

that’s closer to what you need and want. Great. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I’m excited about the walk in shop around the time.. I step. Back together. Thank you for watching. So we have nothing. Else on our agenda. So I, we just point this here. I think

it’s not on my. Okay. That’s a good one. Yeah I. Guess they keep it coming because. I just. Yeah. Okay. I will read. Okay. It’s all down. So next on the agenda is to meet with members of Pierce’s Point HOA board of directors to discuss reporting, scheduling and other responsibilities as outlined in the homeowners and

maintenance documents. Do we have. Come on. Down we go. How’s everything going? I have two copies, so we’ll have to share. All right. You got one. More. All right, well, I. Think they’re gonna. Have to direct us. With where they want us Yeah. One. Sure. You guys. You guys are. I have it. We do not know.

Okay. I just want to make sure I have warrants for you guys. More. If you haven’t already. And I have stuff for you as. Well. I told you, that’s important. Yes. Yeah. So what do you want? Do you. Want to do this for? I’m not saying. It’s okay. Yeah. I’m not. You give us. Like, who’s.

On on. right now. So. Gotcha. Um. How it’s funded. And, um. And. Let me know when you’re ready. To go. No. Excuse me. We’re still having a meeting yet. We’re still having a meeting in this room. Gavin. Okay. So I’ll just have them introduce themselves and. All right. So why don’t you introduce yourself, and then,

uh, we’ll just let us know the name and that where you’re at in. So, you know, the members of the board and what we have so far. Okay. I’m seven Shore Road for us. And I’m work of the HOA for this point. Perfect. My name is Patrick Simcoe, 34. Bridge Street. Berkley. Mass. And on the threshold.

Okay. Are they, uh. Joining with them or just listening? No, they they they then. Um, okay. All right. Okay. Okay. I’m sorry. What was your name. Again? Patrick’s in the bonus. MacFarlane. Semicolons. SIM. Oh. I’m sorry. Okay. On is. And you said you’re the treasurer, and you are the clerk.

Okay. Do you have. Are you all the positions filled? Is there a president? Uh, temperamental, that he is not available tonight. And he’s the president. Jen pimentel. Pimentel. Yeah. Any vice positions? No, no. Only required for three positions. Okay. Okay. Lovely. We gotta find the section in there.. Which 1 a. m. I looking for? Those. They’ve. Like the.

Only that was the makeup of the board. Are they, um. Or the manager? Board of managers. The owners of the first eight lots sold. So how did that. Yeah. I think they did their own election. Right? Yeah. So in there, it does mention the owners of the first eight lots. So how are you handling them.?

Not outside. Can we just get a little bit louder? I can’t hear it over here. I like the homeless picking up. Yeah, it’s just really haven’t really seen anything. Yeah. We met. Uh, like that? Sure. Yeah. We met. We had an election, um, back. In October, I believe. And we.

Just. Voted on a board. We weren’t really given any direction by our developer. How to do it, so we kind of did it on our own. Yeah. So we. What you’re looking for? Well. I’m just I’m just reading from the document that it was to be, like, the first eight.

So meeting with the first eight homeowners. And we elected the board. Okay. And is that your board of managers? Are they those the first eight owners? Yes. It’s actually six. Uh, one has moved and one family chose to resign and didn’t want any part of it. So there’s only six.

Okay. So do you have, like, the something you can hand in hand us? Okay. That’ll make it easier. Probably. Um, I have our meeting notes from that meeting, and it’s somewhere. Okay. So, President Kenneth Pimentel, treasurer Patrick O’Connor’s and clerk Emily Mann. I have a. Financial documents. Um.

Okay. All right, so you want to. I’ll look into this while you carry the rest of the conversation for. A minute. Well, yeah. How are you dealing with it? How how many meetings are you guys having? How is, the plan for the Dillingham stuff? Like how? How’s it going? There’s

really I mean, we had an attorney consult the documents, and I have no personal attorney consulting. It’s extremely vague. So we’re doing the best we can. We’re required everyone meeting the year, which we have in October. Um, we’ll have another one in September. Okay. Um, I think it’s required to be in September. We had one in

October. Kind of out of necessity with the whole. Yeah. Um, Riverside have issue, but, um, we lined up plowing. We had plowing done this winter for Dillingham. We’re in talks with, uh, getting a contract lined up to mow the drainage, swim, clean it out, and hopefully get that done soon. Um, to get that taken care of, but.

Are you collecting HOA fees? I mean, finally, I’ve got, uh, the developer to turn over the bank account, so we now have control of that, which was kind of the driving factor, having money to do all of this. Yeah. So we, um, we do have the bank account lined up, and we’re

going to be in the process of collecting dues soon. We’re working on an app to make it easy for everyone. How about, um, the transfer of ownership of the land? Because we’re. Still the Berkeley LLC. Land Corp still owns those portions. Um, our conversations with al and the falls that he was

planning on doing that in the spring, which is obviously not happening. So it’s pretty par for the course for him. Um, we’re, uh, we’re just kind of waiting on him to do something promised to do. And we’re gonna probably start putting some pressure on them soon to to finish the development.

But, you know, it’s it’s a waiting game. We waited for seven, eight, nine years now. So it’s not. Yeah. It’s not anything. What about the boat ramp? Dock and beach. It’s nonexistent. And we don’t own it yet. It’s still Berkeley Land Corp. Still. It’s still open. Okay, so we don’t have

any thing to do with it down there until he finishes it and turns it over. Huh? Is there anything we can do to help? Okay. Um. Let’s see. Okay. Okay. Uh. Just discuss. The duties. Yeah. Okay. Um. All right. So the duties were to operate and maintain the infiltration detention basins,

as shown on the said stormwater management plan. So you said you’re working on that, right? Yeah. The rest of the stormwater became the town once the roads were turned over. It’s just the Dillingham. Yeah. Area. It’s just that swale. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Um. And you have. Has that been maintained this way? Grass?

No. We need to do it. We we understand that. We just. Okay. So the getting to it. So part of part of that is maintaining mowing the grass to, to be cut to a height of no less than four inches. According to this. Um, I don’t think we’re all going to go out

there on the ruler, but no. I, I asked a question regarding that. Just state your name and address. I know we can get past that. You can. And you might want to come to the microphone here. When I’m on TV, they complain. Yeah. They can’t hear. Yeah. Here at home.

Yep. Microphone doesn’t do anything in here but it’s for. So my question is um, because especially with all the. Rain and heavy. Storms, you get a. Lot of runoff. Yeah. That berm is not where it’s. Supposed to be. Okay. So that’s well being the way it. Is and. not allowing the.

Runoff that way. It’s still running all this way, all the way down cold. So it’s already washing out our driveway. So that needs if we can get something done, something like that because it’s. It’s a little bit. So we need to burn. Well he put a small berm in. Yeah. To try to help the water.

Okay. Stay on that side. But the road is not level. Okay. Still until until supplies. Isn’t it? Pitch towards, like, overage or pitches. Right. So. Oh my God. So. Okay. Would that be in full the way it is. And then not having the ability to go anywhere. Hold on down.

You mean so because of a like because of the grass. Like the. If the swale gets all cleaned out, then it will be okay. It should help with some of the. With the flow. We still get that pitch is not right. Are you on Gillingham about this on. Close. On. Okay. So that’s on the town.

That the grass. In the. Swale is now higher than the road. Yeah. Okay. So the largest. Was up against the grass. You can’t go into this well anymore because it’s. it’s gonna. Look like that. Can you two are saying. Yeah. I don’t see that look down there.

Okay. So it affects us the most. Like I said, our driveway is already being washed out. We already had it. Like. Okay, so once they get it mowed that. We’re hoping. That it will help. But do you all know each other? Do you all know each other? Or maybe we can make this connection? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Just if we can try to do it, it doesn’t necessarily affect Dillingham itself. Is down where we are. Yeah, there’s not many that. We got a couple of houses at the top, but down where. They are. So the water’s coming back instead of going to cross street. It’s coming back through.

No. We’re on Dillingham. Right down the side of. No, I know exactly what you want. I know. So it’s not even. Going around, but it’s not going to cross. It’s not going that way. It’s coming back. Coming right. around pitch height down the hill into our property. So we get plenty. Our driveways getting washed out

with all the heavy meets. Okay. So with out with the grass mowed, will it hold the water up? It’ll help the water drain. Dissipate a little more. Yeah, because it’s not being so blocked because of all the weeds and the the grass height. And it’s pretty full. Yeah. No. But it’s still.

I’ve driven through there. I’ve gone through there most of the only knows I’ve driven down there a million times to look at that swale. Um, but you’re going with me too. And, um, I just don’t know how. Because of the way everything is tilted. Obviously, it’s got to be molded. I get that part.

Well, we had an issue when I already did that and put that road in the pitch was already wrong. So he came back and put a burner in. I remember the berm. Right to offset because he was that was the pitch was. Wrong, but that was just to hold the water until it saturated.

It was it was already a pitch issue. It was supposed that it was supposed to hold it and to go back that right. The berm was supposed to hold it back so it would saturate the ground there. It’s not. Wrong, but it doesn’t. Okay. So with the grass mowed, actually that might help because.

If it brings it down, right. Because it’s already it’s full of debris and the frame height. The problem, and the grass. At this point I had on the road in the Swale. Yeah. No. I get it. The water is never going to go through this way. Yep. And with all the heavy rain, especially the design and the

snow and melting and. Yeah, right down the ice. Okay. So I was just asking if we had an E. T. A. on that. Soon we’ll get it done. Other than we. Did. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Great. Yeah. I don’t know. I guess that you are just supposed to

supply us with a written record of your finances once a year, monthly. Like September and our next year. Yeah. Yeah, I would think that would be the way to do it. Um, I don’t think. Do you see anything else that they need to. Know? This this is this is this is this is really, um, not not

the norm for us. No, it’s just because this project was so crazy. The norm for us out there. Right? It’s just because this project gone up so crazy that now it’s it’s. We have to do things this way for a while. Mm. Okay. Okay. I understand. and we’re going to make it too. So we’re

kind of learning as we go. Right. Yeah. Is there. A maintenance log required? Like. Yeah. Um, I. Think the log was for, like, the a little drainage facilities, I don’t know. So was the H. So you talk about the, uh, the drainage on the road. You don’t have to deal with that, because now the town

owns the road. So that that’s not the only drainage you have to deal with is dealing you. Yeah. Correct. So that’s that’s I mean, that’s what the HOA is pretty much taken care of is doing him. Yeah. Um. There’s a thing like once a year, like maintenance for Dillingham. You have a plan for.

Just give, like the receipt when we have it mowed, maybe. Yeah. And and. Yeah. And if the. Yeah. Because that if he can. Yeah. It’s it’s a handwritten. It’s just gotta be dated. Yeah. So we know that constantly happening. Okay. So are you looking for a landscaper to take care of that. Is that what you’re doing?

Yeah. Yeah, probably would use our plow guy. I think he does landscaping as well. Usually. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like the, um, maintenance plan for, like, anything potholes or whatever that they would be responsible to. Yes, they would be. Yeah. And, uh. Yeah. Yeah. Cold patch and whatever it takes. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Can I have just a plow through the gentleman that you have the guys lives up the street? Right. Yeah. He plows dealing him, but he blocks the, um, cobordism. I’m just like, you know. Okay. I can address. My husband plows the neighborhood. Okay. And he couldn’t get out of the storm.

That’s at the top of it. He just closed straight. Out as well. He loves it. The windows gotta go to the scale. It can’t go on the side. But. Yep. Okay. Yeah, I just. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Back there. Yep. My name is Chris Rose. I live on 37 Dillingham in 42

Dillingham. Where? Ridge Street and Dillingham meet. Yeah, just in reference to the plowing. Pierson’s point. And just, you know, I’ve met with Patrick and Emily and Kenny Pimentel. Uh, a few months ago, we were trying to meet before this meeting, maybe have a couple things ironed out. Everybody’s busy.

We were unable. One of the things we were asking for, a couple of things. One of them was, uh, they did have somebody plow this year. Uh, the first, first time around. Maybe next year we’ll talk to the plow guy and kind of work some things out. After they actually plowed my front lawn. So all the

Amazon trucks and trash trucks are going across my front lawn. But that’s beside the point. We’ll work that out. I’ll put some reflectors in, but Robbie, uh, gentleman that lives down by us did a vast majority of the plowing. Uh, we are asking for $500 for him. We believe

that is very fair. Uh, but he was out. I mean, we had a ton of snow this past year. Um, he did a ton of plowing. And we are asking that I did email Ken, um, the president appears to point HOA and did make that request. So the two things that

we are requesting right away are $500 for Robbie for plowing, we believe he did 2 to 3 times more plowing than that. And for that swale to get cleaned out as soon as possible. Um, as they said, the effects stem down on Cove. Um, and then all we’re really looking for is maybe 1 or 2

times a year. Just keeping that swale cleaned up. When I talk to Ken Pimentel, the president, we are trying to work with, Pearce’s point to come up with a minimal, uh, minimal tasks that can be done that kind of keeps everybody happy, but at least have some type of schedule so we don’t have to

kind of come in here and kind of keep going through this. Just something on paper where we know when things are going to be done and we’re not trying to take up too much of people’s time, uh, maintaining, filling him out because as you said, that is now that Ridge and the other streets went public.

It’s ultimately just dealing, Dillingham, that they’re worrying about at this point. Okay. So on your report for September, we’re going to want to know what happens with that. Okay. With that, we we definitely going to want to go. Huh? I said on our report on their report in September. We want to

know what happens with the request for the 500. Also, um, so that that should probably be mowed every couple of weeks. Every once, twice a year, once or twice. A year. That’s all it says. Yeah. Okay. And then. Was the last time it was moved. I’m sorry. When was it? It hasn’t been mowed. It has.

It does. Nick. Nick. Moves and he moves it. Yeah. I mean, you know, like in front of the beginning of Dylan. Now, Nick you’re right. It’s pretty new. It’s pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get that, we get that. We just. Got we know. Yeah we forward. Yeah we get that taken care of I didn’t

know it was twice a year. That’s good. So that’s that. That’s very seldom. Is that the documents are very big. Yeah. Yeah yeah I mean I would think or has needed you know, but. Excuse me you there’s a. Maintenance program for that location in the air conditioner. But you just said twice a year.

Yeah. I thought it would have been twice a month, but twice a year. Actually, it’s been it’s once a year during the growing season. Once a year. The ground we really. Have that discussion. four inches every road, would you look at that? When you look up, you know, look at these

policies that we encoded. And with so many years that will be left, look at McCarran road because that is and look at maintenance. They said there’d be so many of these plots to be coat that road with a coating so it doesn’t dry out. And all the rocks don’t go wherever. It doesn’t just, you know, kind of

stuff and take a look, look it all up and they got a clean on the end of this. Well, there’s a cafe that goes that bottle of water goes that’s all clogged up. I but these are these going on here that goes under the road, across the road.

And there’s a runoff over there that’s supposed to be cleaned out for over here. And that’s. That’s been kind. by the drainage. I’m not aware of it. But they don’t know about it. They never seen it, doesn’t look at it. Nothing. You understand? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we’re just reading the manual. It says the

the surface maintained on an as needed basis. There’s no like outline for what that is, is like I said, it’s very vague. That’s good. That’s the stuff. Yeah. Or is it a shame there’s. No potholes. All right. That’s the. No. Same I.. No one. Like like.

When. So we do have to grab to keep keep it maintained as you. Yeah. All right. So they can go. Above it. There’s no like outline of what that entails. But they do have to remove the. Excuse me. That’s from. Regards to the. Road maintenance. I’m not sure if.

The. Planning board is aware, but we have put up a plastic traffic thing, a plastic traffic chain and a turn around on my property at the end of Dillingham. When you look at their deeds, Pierson’s point is responsible for Dillingham. Not one year, not for five years, but for as long as they own

those homes. This is like this can be a 30, 40 year thing. The idea of the chain. When I met with Emily Patrick in Kent is we feel we should try to keep the vehicle traffic on Dillingham to an absolute minimum. So they’re not absorbing all of these road maintenance costs over the next

ten, 20 and 30 years. So I feel like we are trying to work with them to try to limit the amount of maintenance down there as much as possible, obviously, Ridge is a public road. We try to direct all the traffic that way, and we are trying to limit

the traffic on Dillingham, so we’re not constantly in this. Hey, you guys need to do this. We we’re trying to avoid all that if possible. That’s all well and good. Let’s get back to the chain across the road. Yes. What? We put up a traffic chain. Um, I’ve been in touch with Chief

Perry. I’ve been in touch with, um, Chief Dubuque. I’ve been in touch with Mr. Chabot. Um, we felt I can go through a list of. Reasons that have breakaway links on it for emergency vehicles. Yeah. So I yeah, it’s a it’s a $19 chain from Amazon. It’s a

plastic chain that falls down the wind. If the kid was running through it, this falls over. If a deer runs. Through my my thing is motorcycles, bicycles. It just it just walls. It’s got. Pretty close to ten mile an hour winds. Even those even those plastic chains. You you can put breakaways on the ends. Correct.

Okay. So just they just fall over and explain to Chief Hook and Chief Perry what we did. And they before I did it, I wanted to make sure the emergency vehicles can get through. And I wanted to make sure there was no, no danger. Um, and they

were fine with the concept, but the whole point of it is we are trying to avoid conflicts of maintaining Dillingham into the future. With Pierce’s point. When we met. With Mr. Rose. In. The fall. We told him. To not block the road. Um. The subdivision. Plan that was approved. By this body, the. Planning board included that.

That was a right of way for all the residents. It’s in the deed of. All the residents it’s mentioned in this HOA document in front of you, and it’s an unauthorized obstruction that Chris has put up. And I request that this planning board forces him to remove it. That was an emergency right away.

Don’t you believe that? That’s part of. The fence. So many things on this. Yeah, it’d be good to see these highlighting that we could. Just, uh, wait, because I at one point thought that that was an emergency vehicle right away. That’s what it was supposed to be. Emergency vehicle.

But is it written that way? I don’t know if it’s actually written that way. All public. use for all ways in which you use a public. Ending, a trash. But batten down the road. Everything else. They have somebody waiting, so. This is this is what we are trying to avoid. So this is the

sign that we have have on the chain over there. It says, deer neighbors traffic signs and barrier on Dillingham Avenue directly towards vehicle use, not pedestrians. Please enjoy your walk, bike ride, dog walk, jog, etc. for those interested, Dillingham Ave and the drainage system are maintained with funds from private homeowners.

No vehicles, no vehicle traffic equals less maintenance costs for those homeowners. Ridge Street is a public road maintained by the town and therefore makes sense to direct vehicle traffic towards the publicly maintained road. Thank you for your consideration and enjoy your day. I would say this about the traffic chain.

I’m not sure when I talk to Chief Newark and I talk to Chief Perry and I talked to Mr. Chabot. They all say the same thing to me. They say the town has no liability for property damage or personal injury on Dillingham Avenue. We’ve already. Had. So that. So my question would be, who does have

liability for personal injury and property damage on Dillingham? I would argue that Pierce’s point has significant liability on that road. I do not know if they have an insurance policy down there. If somebody gets hurt, I believe they have massive liability. I feel like that changed and I

put the turnaround on my property, by the way. I feel like somebody on their side should have done it to help their whole.. You build the top, you built a turnaround inside your fence. On the other side of my fence. It goes 15ft in both directions with the, uh, size of the road.

It’s roughly 50ft long, 20ft wide. The vast majority. We’re trying to keep people out of patches dry. Well, we need vast majority of right. Turn around. I just want to speak to clarify the town’s position, because, yeah, the town. Has no interest currently in Dillingham. Because we. Don’t have these in any way.

You own Pearce’s. We do not hold.. No, we do not, sir. We do not. own the HOA. The town owns Rich Street, right? No, we do, but I’m talking about Dillingham. Just. I want to clarify, Dillingham, we don’t have an easement. We own. We own risk. We we. That is a public roadway. And the

underlying bridge. That’s okay with that. Now, that’s. A. Very chain linkage, which is exactly the only thing that I’m talking about currently. Uh, you know, asking permission to put it up from us is ultimately going to end up being a conflict between the neighbors. Yeah. Um, so just to clarify my position, but if somebody hits

that thing, I’ve said the same thing and been very clear, the town, it can’t stop you from doing it. I said, if there is a if there’s an emergency somewhere that the ambulance is going through and it’s going to, it’s gonna attempt to do this thing that it has to do.

Right. That’s all. But I also think it’s wild to come into an open section public meeting on television and essentially say you wish to entrap your neighbors in a lot in liability in the event something happens or something you admit that you did. So that I, I don’t know, the chain. Yeah. The the chain.

Yeah. I just want to make sure that it’s understood that the chain town has nothing to do with that. The town cannot prevent you from putting that up. You you go with with God on that. I want to go with. Okay. We’ve already had two children hit a pylon or a pillar at the

end of theirs, severely hurting themselves and damaging the golf club because they fly up and down like it’s a like a racing strip. I mean, who’s responsible for that? Damaging the golf cart. So the golf cart. Two kids. Who the. Liability kids are all over. The property. They’re homeowners. All over. The car.

Um. Shooting on public roads. Golf carts are not are not allowed on public roads, which. They’re going down. Bellingham. Oh, there are a lot on Dylan and they’re just not allowed on Ridge and golf carts and golf carts. Well. Public roads, well they do. They go around in circles. All right, all right, all right. So we’re arguing about

golf carts. No. No no no, I’m saying the liability because of this, this is just one case. There were two children. Gotcha. Hitting a killer on somebody’s property. You have notes on all this? On whose property we did. This is the first. House we have. We have notes on what’s going on right now.

Being said, I’ve never heard. So these are a lot of things, like last year when we talked, when journalists were talking about all that properties that before you guys put that HOA in place, these were a lot of the things that were coming up. And this is all the kind of stuff

we were trying to mitigate back then. Um, since none of that, none of the I don’t actually know a lot of the stuff we had actually been dealing with on the outside. We had gotten a communication from billing him to us because they didn’t have

an HOA to send it to. At the time, there was a lot of liability. Yeah, but please. Tell me you all are connected. With what. You’re having. Conversations like. That you actually should happen. They’re putting in a legal. Like lock. Of our. I don’t think. We because. Well. I am. so beach and. Street use. Of street lights..

Yeah. And that’s. So typically on the street. So typically I’m speaking typically on private roads the owners own to the middle of the road, be property owners, own to the middle of the road. Your HOA right now is maintaining that area for them. Yeah. But we don’t own it. The property owners own it.

Correct. This is a different situation, but typically is the property owners own to the center of the road. You don’t own it. You are maintaining it. Correct. Through your HOA agreement. Yes. That’s what we know right now. But we are going to ask. Yeah, further into that. So I mean, I guess technically the people on Ridge.

So what I’m. Saying, he backs up to the other half. Yeah. So so again, what I’m saying with that is if they own it and it’s theirs. Yeah. But in your HOA agreement you are maintaining it. Maintenance liability. Correct. So the liability is on the owners. So if they’re trying to keep

people off of their private road, again, this is typical what I’m saying. Typical situations. Yeah right. The HOA established.. But that’s what we have to. Find out in exchange for being able to access and use. It. Correct. That is it. That is great. That’s what we need. That’s what we need to find out.

Why are we maintaining it. As part of the charter. All right. So we need to get as far. As we maintain it says we have. I think it’s. Has a few. Did I think it’s really quiet. Not really. To get. out of this. So. I just yeah, I know there’s a lot of folks on so I don’t

want. To know what they’re saying. They can’t answer why they’re maintaining it. Right. For that purpose. Right. It’s for emergency purposes to that name. No, no, no, that’s the vehicle. Is not just emergency. No, I know that’s okay. We gotta find out. We don’t know. Yeah. We don’t know what was actually written in there.

We are gonna we’re gonna find Mr. Rose. You had your hand up. I did, um, I just want to go back and paint the scenario with you guys. I, I understand the sentiment coming from some of the people in Pierson’s point that we are blocking their road. Let’s let’s reverse it. We are trying to limit

traffic. Let’s reverse it. Let’s say I have a trucking company, and I was brought in trucks up and down that road, Dillingham Ave, all day long, beating the hell out of that road. But you’re not. It’s not. What they are. You can have a little trucking.

But anyhow, we got all of. We are trying to protect the road. What if we said, you know what? Beat the shit out of the road. We’ve got nothing to do with it. They’re going to pay for it. I would never do that. Okay? We’re trying to protect the road. We recognize that

this can be lasting 30, 40, 50 years. Okay. I don’t know if anybody’s familiar with 42nd Street here in Berkeley. It is a very similar situation. You have one part of the neighborhood that is financially responsible for the other part. Okay. Things are brewing over there. All right? They are 20 years beyond us.

There is probably hundreds of thousands of dollars in road repairs on 42nd Street that need to be addressed. All right. We are on that path down the road. Um, with Pierce’s point, I am trying to prevent them from trying to spend money. And I also want to remind everybody there is no

logistical advantage that anybody in Pierce’s point to use Dillingham, Dillingham and Ridge Road run parallel. You are not getting anywhere faster by using Dillingham than you are rich. And I would also like to remind everybody that the Pierce’s point people fought very hard to have their road go public and put their maintenance on the Berkeley

taxpayer. So they’re basically saying, we want the Berkeley taxpayers to pay for our road, their road, their drainage, and they still want to be able to use Dillingham Ave and open it up and have trucks going back and forth. I’ll also remind everybody him about 16ft wide. You cannot fit two vehicles going back and forth. I have

that whole area under surveillance. I’ve got numerous situations with trucks going head on at each other. You cannot fit on the road. It’s a game of chicken and you got to slide off and drive across somebody’s lawn. That road is not meant for two way traffic. It is meant for emergency vehicles and it was meant so

the developer could access those laws. Otherwise, that 50 acres, that is now Pierce’s point was landlocked. That’s why that road is there. It’s not the golf carts. It’s not for DoorDash. It’s not for Amazon. It’s not for UPS, it’s for emergency vehicles. And that developer to access those laws.

I mean, I appreciate it, trying to keep the maintenance costs low, but we didn’t ask anyone to to do that. We understand we have a maintenance obligation. We’re going to collect dues accordingly and maintain it yearly. So it never gets to a 42nd street type situation. I mean, I appreciate the sentiment, but we didn’t ask.

You did not know. I think it’s what’s the question seems to be about golf carts. So like that’s that’s a in small. Measure seems to be about people using that road that should not be using the road. We make that. Because people at Riverside, they have golf carts, people on Bayview. I mean, it’s just kind of.

Flying by your house. I’m just I’m just I’m just trying to, like. So I just want to clarify. That I had a question. Retreat ends. At Dillingham. Yeah. And Mr.. Rose has put. Up chains and signs and speed bumps. Yeah. To basically. Say that vehicles aren’t. Allowed. Even though everyone.

Who lives in that community has a right to drive the. vehicles down. The road. So that’s a civil matter at that point. Well, I just want to be recognized it. Yeah. If I, if I can I don’t know what is the position of the Pierce’s point. HOA is that your easement is being barred on Dillingham.

Just to be clear, that is your that is your position as of right now for the plastic chain link fence that Mr. Rose has installed. Yes. That is your position. Okay. We have perfectly legal to block half the half of our side by parking our cars there. So, honestly, from what I’m hearing, everything I’m hearing

tonight is, is I understand there’s two parties here that very clearly have grievances against one another. It’s just. Easier and and and but and I can only say that yes, there. What if I had to ask? Dillingham would want. You want maintenance as defined by the HOA agreement? No. This is why I’m asking questions. What is.

What is Dillingham? Uh, I don’t know who speaks for Dillingham. It’s Mr. Rose. Or if it’s a collection of everybody. I have a question. Because back in the town meeting, there was a, um, an issue, not an issue, but an option for the town to take Dillingham back. Is that correct?

It wasn’t Dillingham at the time. At the time, we were trying to offload Berkeley LLC, Land Corp of the the current property he owns. It was the. Maintenance of Dillingham. Right. And their HOA hadn’t been established at all. So there really wasn’t an HOA to do anything with. So it was a

gray area, and it was kind of a way around to give you guys back your autonomy and get them out of the responsibility portion. For the most part, and kind of everybody walk away from the situation, I gotcha. Okay. So until when the trash goes down, Dillingham. Right.

And another truck comes the other way, the block, the road, not Dillingham. And all that goes into the Karen Road. All it is, is liquid asphalt. Yeah, rocks on it. It’s not a regular asphalt road. So chuckles down there, breaks the side of the road up. You got to pay the $10,000 to fix it.

So all of that all of that situation, neither one of these boards are responsible for enforcement or or oversight of any right. Right. That’s a complete civil matter. And I think you guys need to set up a meeting and talk and have and have those conversations outside. And, you know, if it

becomes a civil issue between the HOA and the private citizens of Dillingham, then that’s what it becomes. Because as of right now, the town has no no state in that. The board allowed. All this stuff to go through. Right now, the planning board want anything to do?

Well, we have to. They have to do with what is outlined. The planning board has to make sure the HOA is formed and doing what they’re supposed to do. So that was. Eight years ago. It was not. You know. Yeah, I understand and that’s why we did what we

did to try to push and make sure that the HOA. But we’re on TV. And doing what they’re supposed to do is going to come down. All we can do. And we even lobbied for the last eight and a half. Years, and all we can do is make sure that the HOA is

formed in doing what they’re supposed to do. That’s all we have the power to do, which is why we have this column, you know, conversation about, do you want the town to just own it? Because then we’re responsible. But the HOA wants to, you know, form the HOA and have their responsibilities,

which is great. But that’s the responsibility of HOA. The nine years now. And paying me for plowing that over five years. Well, and brought me my name along with the last. That’s something that we thought about. That’s something we considered and we talked about as a board, and we had

public meetings about, which is one of the reasons that we thought it might be who’ve everyone in the town to take it. So we could take responsibility of that. But the reality is the HOA wants to have their so. This is not a line doesn’t make a road out. Of town.

No. It was it was a it wasn’t taking Dillingham. It was about the easement and it was about the HOA being established from the get. But it all that’s over now. So another question for you at the end of the okay, the road is what, 42 Waimea. The town is still oh it’s like another 20ft

on each side of that road. Why doesn’t the town just go down there and make turn around the end of the road went back up. We don’t. See 20ft. We are. We looked at. Everybody 50, 50ft. What we. Need for it to be wide enough to do a turnaround. We looked

at something there and it would just it would have required a taking. It’s not something it would take money and it’d take time. I mean, you can turn around 50ft. I mean. Well, not and not every vehicle, not every vehicle. I think it was 80ft. Yeah. Ideally we’d want that with 80ft.

Because that was our that was our plan. We really did hash all that out and look for doing a turnaround down there too. So that. Way. Yes. What are you doing that. There’s the truck. No. For that. Traffic. Yeah. Travel. Right. They won’t I would say and not to speak for the highway

department. Oh we have some representatives here. I my understanding is that they’re backing all the way down. If they do go in or they using the, uh, the backhoe. Yeah. That’s machine just to load in. So a lot of big trucks. You know, have to. They’re not big. Trucks, even.

Just a medium sized trucks. Um, the turn around is I don’t think anyone thinks that’s a turnaround. It’s not even sufficient. And that doesn’t matter, because it shouldn’t be blocking the road anyway. But I’ve seen trucks back up 5600ft. And this is a neighborhood where kids riding their bikes playing, and it’s really dangerous. It would be a

lot safer for these vehicles. Just circle through. As the planning board approved the original subdivision plan. So I think you guys need to have more conversations between your HOA and the people who Dillingham to kind of come to an agreement about these things or. How.. How are ambulances supposed to like, you know, just go out there and.

Where they are going through the chain? Yeah, the chain is a breakaway chain, and we drive right. Through that. I do think it’s a different conversation. Well, is there any desire amongst either party, uh, for the town to take that easement interest or take Mr. Andrews’s easement interest in Dillingham Avenue? No. And that’s what I thought.

Okay. I thought on Dillingham side that it would not work for them. Yeah, it does not. And I think the point is that you would. Obviously not at all taking care of the road for them. It’s about blocking the road, blocking. It’s about the use of the road. Because the road was originally intended with Dillingham, with

them. Here’s his point. Estates for emergency vehicles. And that will be the promise for the last eight years, every every planning board meeting that needs. A meeting. Of this meeting. So it was only supposed to be emergency. Now, I got big ash trucks. I almost got my nose taken off countless

times when people flying down do not live on Dylan. You. There’s know respect or consideration for the people that live until they consider it. A three was approved or something like counsel televise because it comes down like yeah, you know, I understand the use of the road for leisure, but it’s supposed to be a low use road.

All right. I’m gonna I’m gonna I’m just I gotta put a stop to the back and forth. Um, so basically, the residents of Dillingham and the HOA, you guys have some stuff to work out. We are going to check with the attorney, uh, with our attorney, to see how that was written on the usage of that

road. Um, you do have you guys own the maintenance of that road? It’s that you have that doesn’t change whether it’s a chain or anything. So, um, your purpose for coming in here today was to tell us to give us a report on where you are at with the HOA. I give. You the.

Yes, we have we have that. That’s why I’m I gotta stop what’s going on.. Right. We’ll get it going. Good. I mean. I went down that way. The report that she gave us, uh. Did that keep traveling? No, I don’t think it did. Um. Yeah, it’s. Not the report that she gave us.

Yeah. The paper that she gave us. Yeah. Back to the family. I can make. A copy. Oh. All right, so you got a. Yeah. So she she needs that. She actually needs that back. Well, I don’t have it. She’s gonna make a copy. What do you copy? Is a. email it. To you? Okay. That’s it. There it is.

Right there I got it. Okay. Yeah. We we definitely. We need a copy of that. Yeah. Just email it to you, Donna. Yeah. That’s fine, that’s fine. So. I will allow one more comment, but that’s it. Just just three quick things I wanted to address. Number one,

there is a chain there. It can be easily manually moved. If anybody feels really passionately about going down. Dillingham, just slide it over and you get right through. Not the end of the world. Number two Matt, there is not a conflict of personalities. I have some lifelong friends that

live in Pierson’s point. Um, I have mutual friends that live in Pierson’s point. When we do those things, I. I treat it as if my parents lived in Pierce point. I would want my parents to know that they’ve got some serious liability issues over there. In Pierce’s point, they have inherited a road when

there’s been no maintenance. In eight years, there has been no drainage maintenance in eight years. Dillingham Ave is not Rodeo Drive. It’s not Beverly Hills. But it is also not a road, a dirt road with a camper at the end. There is several million dollars worth of private property on that road.

If you neglect you illegal obligations and negatively affect those properties, you have legal liability. You are trying to avoid. All they’re not talking about neglecting their respect. I know I’m trying. To talk. The drainage out between. The. They just they just got the hatred. That’s why we have them here. They just got the HOA together.

We lost it. Nothing’s been done. And I get that, I get that, but we’ve already discussed that. It just got together. So they it’s starting the process. Yes. Correct. Yep. Okay. You said three. That was two. Thank you. All right. We’re moving on. So you’ll provide us with a schedule and and a copy of

that. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you I appreciate it. I’ll make a motion to adjourn. Second short. Call my most. All right. We have. Where are you gonna have a. Short.. 5 or 5. I have a motion for a five. Yeah, I’ll second the

motion. Motion. And a second in discussion. Anyone? Seeing none. Culpable. All right. Okay. Five minute. Oh, man. It’s fine. With that. I take this. Expect a candidate. Yes. Yeah. No, he’s gotta. Stay for all of it. You gotta. Hey hey hey hey. No no. No. No, he was now, now he’s like a. Hominid right. Now I’m broken.

Blah blah.. Robin. Yeah. Well. It’s a. Lot of fun, huh? It sounds. Good, man. A lot. Of fun. Yeah, it can be you. There you go. Then walks the man that’s gonna solve the Pierce’s point dilemma with with, uh. I guess both with him. You know what?

Very nice to meet you. Meet you guys? Yeah, yeah. All right, guys. Nice meeting you. Hopefully we’ll. See you. Yeah. Thank you. Very much. Thank you. Yeah. Matt, if you see Donna out there, can you tell her we’re back? I will, thank you. Thank you. Everybody. Amen. Hold on. I’m Abraham, the 71 year old.

Oh, okay. Well, if somebody wants to make a motion to go out and whatever you can. Um, yeah. Let me finish texting. What do we have? We have old Anthony. Orchard. Orchard? Yeah. All right. Sorry, man. Tell me, what are we doing? We gotta. Come back tomorrow. Motion to go out in order for this one.

This one? This one. He’s sitting here. So. Okay. Come on. Good. Now he’s here. He’s up for him, right? We don’t have anybody from D. C.. Lane. I would love to go. The crowd thinned out here. Come on. Let’s see. Second, we’re gonna go. Whoa, whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. So, old Anthony. we’re gonna hold in the water.

71. And then we’ll jump back up. We’re gonna jump back up that old Anthony. So, um, motion to jump out of order. Skipping old Anthony Street and moving on to Orchard Estates. Just keep them beach and doing 71 low. You went the whole motion. Okay. And then to continue on, uh, with BC Lane. We got.

Uh, no skipping BC Lane. I’m going to 71 County. Okay. Sorry, I have a motion. I’ll second. The motion. Motion a second. Any discussion? All this? I see none. Call the vote. Yes. All right. All right. How are we doing that? Can we go on this? Don’t vote on it. All right. Oh. Okay. We’re back.

Are we back? Orchard. Okay. Good. Watching estates. Uh. Planning board, regarding Joshua. Lane last meeting. We had the report from Zach. So y’all have that? Yeah, we had that. Yep. And then Rob was able to go out this week. Okay. All right. So I’m not sure.

And says I have no issues with Demi Lane. However I still have some concerns with Joshua Lane. As I stated in the December 9th, 2024 letter, I spoke with Josh rice on six, eight, 26 and he stated that he he regraded and installed the type of gravel that should pack a

little better and than the previous material. However, this will solve the problem, but not 100% sure it will. Hopefully this will solve the problems. He also stated that if a problem were to arise in the future, he would resolve it. As always, my concern is public safety. If gravel were

to wash out onto the onto Orchard Street, which is very close to to a close to the dangerous Jerome Street intersection, motorcycles and bicycles lose traction and crash. My question for the board is if you sign off on this project, is there some way to put in place a way to of

forcing the applicant to resolve any future problems? I believe the applicant is well intended to fix anything, but without some definite way of forcing it. The town may be stuck with a liability. Thank you. Rob Rose. Yeah, I understand that. Um, and that is. A okay. That is definitely the lean part of the road where you, if

you’re on a bike, you are definitely leaning over there. Okay. Um. Didn’t we have a asphalt apron? 20 or 25ft? We do. That’s why I explained to Robin, I said would that that apron that we have for that nothing, if anything was to come loose, it’s going to go to the top of the apron first

before it goes up and driving back and forth to work every day. I’m not going to have it’s going to take a very long time of me not even caring to upkeep. It could actually reach the road, in my opinion. So I mentioned that the roundabout, the apron I mentioned to him maybe putting millions up a

little further if that would make him happy or something like that in the future if needed. Be um, we seem to be okay with whatever. Just wanted to make sure that I would fix this. So there’s 25ft of asphalt. And then what looks grade or stone? That’s just been sprayed. All the way.

Up. To it’s actually might be 20. I don’t know if going. About you, but yeah. Which 20 is between them. I mean, the team is pretty. Crazy. I agree. However, if Rob thinks it could be an issue that’s concerning. Well, I don’t think he’s he’s.. So we might be able to mitigate that with a sum of money held

back. Um. Is that a possibility? What? Another rainy season? Well. If if he needs to install or some agreement, I don’t. I’m just trying. To. Know, I know. So we can finalize this. How can we make. It clean. Up. Anything if we get a heavy rain? I’m sure it does. I don’t want gravel on his.

Apron. I’m not going out there with. A broom. Try to take care. I mean, you guys can out there to try to do a above and beyond of what I needed to do. I’m not going to let. Hey, I don’t want anybody getting hurt either. And I’m not going to just leave gravel all over the place.

And like I said to Rob, I was willing to possibly put millions up further, which is another stone in travel. Yep. And that to where? So the road does pinch a little bit down how we, you know, design it on the plan. But to the flat spot

I was going to put buildings to the flat spot from the acre which is isn’t cheap. I think that’s a good idea. No, no, I know I’m not cheap. I think that’s a good idea. And that’s what ends up being a solid pack. True. Yeah, true.

I’m fine. I you know, I told him if I see an issue, we’ve had a lot of rain. We had that storm last year. It wasn’t really that much debris out there. It’s catching the the apron and then it’s, you know, we can blow it off. We can move it. I can

sweep it, but it’s really minimal. I mean, it’s not that I had to do it at one time, other than the guys working. And that was at the apron. Not even in the road. Right? Right. I really don’t want to do a cash value. Hold that. I don’t really think that’s that’s necessary. I’ve done, I’ve done

I’ve gone above and beyond for what I think I, I should do, but I will if there’s something an issue that I have no problem taking care of it. We just need something that satisfies that, that that will be taken care of. We have something already in the HOA. Let me presenting.

A question. So he said, uh, that he regraded and installed the type of gravel that should pack a little better, which is what, three quarter. Grade, like a dense grade with ABC mix. So it’s it’s. It’s already been addressed. Yeah. So it just usually that stuff just needs a little time.

It locks in tight and is not going to move. I agree I agree. I just think that if if it was really washing out in this last year of construction. Is there still equipment on site? No, no. Is it. There’s no. Streets or is it just like.

Dummy? No, it’s just just mine because the Joshua drive. Joshua is a little bit on the hill. They’re not hill, but it’s still super inclined. Pitched towards the basement, pitched towards as well. So any runoff is already naturally. going that way. Anyways. In the original plan, there was already some runoff that came

to the into all of the state budget. Uh, budget street. Anyways, that’s because that was on the original plan, but it’s less runoff now. But the apron wouldn’t catch any gravel. But like I said, I might put Billings down if that. If Oso likes that better in the future, I don’t want to

hold to a date, but I I’m not opposed to it. Okay. I think. Well. Obviously willing to work with us in the future. Did you just put something down? I don’t think I’m saying that. Yeah, it just takes time for that. You walk in. I think..

Is that was what everybody be okay if I did put Billings down to make it even, it’ll be less dusty. It’ll be less, um, less of a chance to have any type of washer. Okay. No. Yeah. There would be no washout once that’s packed. Yeah. No, that. Was the time of day that’s gonna go like asphalt.

Yeah, yeah, that might. If there’s that big of an issue when I see it, I, I don’t. You gotta, you know, I have no problem. Put that down. I don’t want to do it right now. I’m trying to just get in there and get it right. Yeah, I gotcha,

but there’s the, you know, big issue that I can. So do you have. A suggestion on how we should like word this. or make some kind of. I think he does. I know we can shake hands, but we really need. Something. You know, I think I see the on both sides of it.

Yeah. You want a response to Rob? Uh, then go look at it. After one season. Yeah, something. Like that. And then, uh, if. There’s an. Issue, then. So we leave the door open for Rob to comment. Give it a year, we can give it a year. Because it goes through

2 to 2 wet seasons. And it’s gonna be really tight after. Yeah I’m sure. And in that meantime, like, once I’m once I’m in there I think I might bring the melons up to that flat spot anyways. Yeah, yeah. So they might. You know, if you get an opportunity for some compaction

or if you get a plate impact or something. Sounds like he’s willing to work with us. So I don’t. I don’t know, digging in on it, so just making a comment I agree I agree, I have to you know. When. I was reading it I wasn’t getting it. But yeah, now that I’ve read it, yeah, yeah.

Again. Yeah I, I. The fourth time I read I get it. No I understand it’s just a, it’s a concern that it could happen. Yeah. And it is for the safety of people. So. Right. Because we see it all the time. It looks great on paper. And then sometimes you, you know, you instruct in.

Yeah. Well we’ve got, we’ve got them on camera. So he said it. Yeah. You know maybe. Maybe like him. Write a letter. That he’ll agree to. Yeah I was exactly I was thinking something like that. Like you can just write up a little paragraph that just says. Uh, now, now, mind you, with any road anywhere, there’s

always going to be some type. I don’t want to get picked up out about. No, no, no, that goes out there cause no significant runoff. Significant amount. I don’t want to drive my car, my truck up and down the street and have to go through gravel. Yeah. Make a letter asking Rob to revisit in a year.

Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. So I guess time and that you will install the the and the village I mean. Yeah yeah I’m. Fine with it if needed. Yeah. I’m not worried if I like I said I don’t want to miss out there. Yeah. And we don’t want to hold you up because you’re you’re right there.

You’re right. I’m trying. I want to keep this up, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Um, so I’ll just touch on the board members didn’t know, but we had the question about the tree plantings. Yes. And were those taken care of? And so. The tree plantings per the, um, the orders, if there’s any,

before 25ft or more. Right. The areas in which there isn’t, there’s there’s areas that are less, but there’s no actual bed area down to the eye is to my right and to the other people. They. Right. Because you had you had mature trees there already. Yes, yes, yes. There was nothing that they were

concerned in the beginning with. If you know how much of the trees were getting right. Okay. And I do at some point again, probably plan on putting some more trees. Up.. Again, I don’t want to be committed to anything. You guys will be able to see in a year’s time that I, I’m doing what I

said I was going to do. I don’t want to, I don’t. I’m sure the neighbors will let us know if you’re not.. No. If what you agreed to do is in place, then. There’s nothing like I drove after I drove down and I was looking, I almost took up, you know, the tape measure and was

looking. But there’s no there’s no barrier there. Was it 20ft, 25ft. 25, 25? Yeah. Hundreds of 300ft from Orchard Street. Yeah, yeah. And like I said, for my own privacy, I may at some point put some trees down the side anyways. Yeah, right. More may want to. Yeah.

Um. Yeah. That’s that’s I, I find that acceptable if he’s met with his. He was meant to agree. Well that made a comment about that in the last letter anyways that he was pretty sure he kind of checked that one off the list. But in his letter, um, we read it a couple of weeks ago.

And the other question that came up was the dust mitigation. But it’s a gravel road. The grass. Is. Yeah. Grass is also growing. But if I do do those, those mailings. Yeah, it will, it will stop it a little more. Yeah. And it’ll you know in five years time it’ll compact itself.

So it’s not like you drive at 30 miles an hour down. Everything you drive destruction. It’s not going to be as bad. You know, the trucks have less and less and less now. Yeah. Very few trucks. So. Okay. His grasses is growing. It’s growing. Yeah. It’s growing. But that shoulder,

it’s still they just put some new loom down. Um, there it is. Dusty. It is dusty. I don’t like it either. So I may try to, um, put some. That’s the only other way that I can solve that problem, I think. But as far as we know. Or, you know, driving on the road.

We. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, we knew we knew. That’s what happens with gravel roads. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Um, but I’ll try to address it. No, I, I’m familiar. I live next to one myself and it took a long time for it to. Yeah. To new stuff that would just put down. That will get

hot or not or. It’s not an issue anymore. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Usually it drives a stone in and leaves the fine material on the top. Yeah. It’s it’s never ending unless you go with a different product. But it’s. it’s far enough. It sounds like you speak through experience. Driven down a road like that one twice.

Yeah. Right. Right. Um, okay. So do we have any ash does that does that, that. The neighbors know. Great. To your. Neighbors okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Just questions okay. Yeah. Just to make sure that they were, you know, that things were done. Yeah. Um, there’s no ill will or anything

like that, you know, um, so we have a covenant release. You still are looking to release lots one and lots for. Yep. Correct. Yep. Okay, so if the board is satisfied and considers this done, um, with the only thing needed is a letter from you just stating what we agreed to.

Basically saying that, uh, I thought we would do the problem, revisit the. Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. We need a letter from. We’re asking. You a. letter saying. That. Oh, okay. That you’re willing to, um, you know, set the revisit in a year for his. Yeah. Any run on any. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It’s all we’re looking for.

So, um, I will make a motion to release lots one and lots for from Orchard Estates that are currently held in covenant. I have a motion. second motion and a second a discussion. See none call for vote. Ungar I read your I over. I. Where we are sorry. Oh that’s me. And. You signed all of them.

Um. We have to, uh. No. Just one. We have to get that notarized. So hold off on that. Oh, yeah. Apparently. How is she here? I don’t want to check. She might be if she didn’t leave. Um, and then to finalize this project. Everyone’s satisfied. Everything’s been met and constructed and done.

Well, I’ll make a motion that we accept orchard estates as a complete, definitive subdivision. I have a motion. Second motion. Motion and a second a discussion. I see none. Call the vote. Ungar. I read your eye, Oliver. All right, Larry, I had a. Oh, let me amend that to say pending receipt of a letter of agreement.

I think that’s between. Yeah, between him and Rob. Amended. Second. Revision. Amended. Pending. Uh, she’s not here. Uh. Oh. She’s not here. Okay, we will take care of this. All right? We can’t even sign it. How does that work? Um, I will take. We can. I will get her. Okay. Um, we’ll handle

this later. I will get it for you. Um, Monday. Okay. I think Monday. And I’ll actually bring a little. Okay. If that works. Okay. Perfect. Good. Excellent. Yeah. Thank you. That’s perfect. Um, okay. Josh. Thank you. You good to go. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you guys.

Night. All right, all right. 71 County Street. Stole a, uh, requirements of possible sale of vehicles on property. Okay. And and or is it sounds end with end? Well, I don’t. Know. Something something disappear. 71 County. 71 county. Oh. All right. Is that this gentleman? Yes. Okay. Come on up. Is that the old RV?

No, it’s the old Saint ice. Yeah, the it’s the. It’s the Dotson. RV. Before went to the big. Yeah. The old the Dotson. Yeah, yeah. That’s in the original. Yeah. RV. So I was looking to apply for a used car license. Um. I got a repair license there, and I just moved.

The repair business there. Um, and we’re going back and forth and I guess it all kind of got hung up. Just a I was asked to apply for a special permit, but they had still been operating as doing used cars out of there. Yeah. I had sent over to.

Matt. It was all their news car licenses that how they had originally done it which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, but I think the same that shows in kind of a the way they did it was. What they did. That was all before commercial zoning. You’re actually in commercial zoning. So that was special permit for.

It still needs to be for hair. Yeah, yeah. Um. On the same. So when I’ve read through it, it said it may require a special permit. Nope. My side of it was. 000. The tree was. On purpose. Mhm. Until recently. Well, original and. My application fee and go. In. Mhm. Oh yeah. It’s us.

Yeah. So special permit. Yeah. Yep. Are you the one from Bridgewater. Yeah. My dad. So my, my dad on the dealership in Bridgewater. Yeah. He calls it. Yeah. He sold the property. Retired. Uh what is that. What is it. What’s the motor car. Motor car international cross. So is it just. Is it or is it sales?

It’s it’s it’s going to be both right. You. Have our repair permit. Yep. And I would like to add the used car licensing to it. Yep. Yep. The it can’t hold on to that Bentley forever. Do you own that property. Did you buy that property or. Not. It from the Saint.

I see. What time you. Then I gonna let go. Yeah, I didn’t think so, but I had to ask. I don’t know. Okay. Would it be a problem? Would it be an office and someone there all the time? I’m there six days a week. I have a drawing of. Oh, yeah, I would like to see that.

I tried to in my best to. Look at this. That’s the whole property that’s kind of highlighted out here is what I’m using. Yeah. Um, I tried to divide it out that line. There’s a wall that’s a showroom in the front. And then there’s another one with the parts room in the back. I have

two cars parked in here now. They’re both in for a pair. And then there’s parts room. There’s office space in here. There’s three offices. And those little stars are where the fire extinguishers are. I would keep this fence line here. I have a line of cars here right now. I would keep

this for cars that are in for repair. And then I would, um, park what I have for sale out front or vice versa. This house is owned by this property. Yeah, it’s like a rental or something. Is there a fence or anything there? There’s a fence that comes down here.

Yeah. Well, it’s a commercial property too. I believe. That house. It is. That’s. It’s actually just rented. Yes. And then they use the back half of the property overflow from the what. They have trailers. Yeah. So they keep going with that grand getting feedback okay. So this property has always been licensed. Yes. Well it lapsed because it hasn’t.

Hasn’t been. Anything for a good number of years. It was just storage. So she was. I’ve always seen I’ve always seen cars in there. So I thought it was like storage cars. Storage. They were. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. They actually yeah. The uh, it was like a big Twitter world started using it to classic cars. Yeah.

Think. Yeah. So when I looked it up because I know the question was when it lapsed. And she can if she wants to. Those are some perks. And sales are what they sold in 24. When I looked up what use was they sold cars when the intent to

make money and they accepted risk for it. So I have their insurance policies. They were selling cars out of there up until 24. They had a collection of cars that they. They just sold all those cars on them. There’s a whole village. They just sold the cars on them.

I know to the public I it’s right now there’s a lot more cars there. And it’s. Yeah. No, I know they’ve been using. I’m just gonna go ahead because this raises a lot of red flags for me. Saint Ives motor sales at route 140 and 79. That is

not really the location. But the other thing is, if you if you Google this phone number, it comes out to be the Nissan dealer on route 44 in Raynham. Oh yeah. So it’s this is. Yeah. I don’t think this is specific to this property. I don’t know, I mean, it just raises some flags for. me as well.

Yeah. Whatever your inspection I have it. I mean I have lived here for 40 years and I’ve never really seen anything active in that place. I don’t know when it was active. Um, but it was Dotson. It was a Nissan. Nissan. I was on the other side. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I remember when they were selling the RV out of there. Yeah. Ten years ago. Yep. When he saw the Nissan dealership was still there. Yeah. Marty had you out of place at the Dotson boys. Yeah. And then he moved over once Nissan left. Yeah, when he sold it to you.

The way that a lot of this stuff is, is I. When they had it and it was the Nissan dealership. Yep. They probably just had a bunch of that. So the Saint Ash family sold the Nissan dealership to, um, the Masseria family. They never sold Saint Ives Motor sales.

Saint Ives motor sales is what they were operating out of. That’s that’s who they were. And they were. So they they weren’t they were Saint Ives Nissan. But they were saying Ives motor motor Sales selling these songs and that that name has always been there. So they never sold that. That’s, that’s oh, they’ve always been saying

I have no sales. I’m sure when they sold to master, they sold it as. Well. That was called. Bluesman right. That’s Nissan that kind of does those deals. Yeah. It wasn’t. Because they have to approve the the franchise basically. Correct. I mean the property is for that. I mean, if we have to

do issue a special permit or whatever, it’s got to be done, you know, um, so what are you looking to just get the application to us and stop the process? Oh, you. Do you guys, the my thing is, do I have the. When I looked it up, it was seven. You can correct me in the amount I

thought it was in, like the $7,000 range for me to get a special permit to go into that building. All right. Um. And. Which raised it with me that I’m, you know, my dad retired, and I’m now starting off, and. Yeah, I know, I get it.

And hit with the $7,000 fee, which, I mean, I got oil this week and it was more than that. But, you know, it’s the fact that it’s always been a car dealer that has me hung out here. Okay? I drive by there every day. I’ve seen cars live for the last 20 years. Places like.

Yeah. I mean, I’m just saying the 20 years I’ve been on that side of town. Yeah, it’s been automotive. I didn’t even know we had a $7,000 fee. That seems a little high. I know that my. We are fees and stuff. For, you know, seeking for a class two auto license.

Yeah, yeah. Usually there’s a bond required, but that’s usually issued by the select board. I have a I have my bond. So what’s this? It’s by square footage of the building. So what’s the square footage of the building? 5500ft. 55. So you’re running into the $1,800 application fee. And then there was a $6,000. One after that.

So that is a consultant review fee. So that goes into account to fund the, um, attorney if we need it, and the engineer if we need it. I don’t see that we need an engineer at this point, but we would need an attorney. It may not apply.

Yeah, it likely is not going to be that much money. Whatever is not used in that. That’s part of the consultant fee is returned back to you. For like for how. Well we have to do we we have to go through um, we the attorney has to go through paperwork, deeds, all the usage, everything.

And is there do I have to get. The other thing was that I needed to have an engineer planned on the building. We don’t need an engineer on. That’s right. But my I would think that the hospital plan in the field. Well, we have to have something. Well, I mean, we have.

Like, we what? What is that like? Well, this is just a plot plan. I mean, are you willing to take this. Building is existing, so. Correct. Yeah. Why couldn’t we use that? I I’m sure we could. Well. I mean, it might need a little more information. Probably. You probably do need. An. As built. That would.

Make the most sense for the. So you know, all that distances and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Issues. Yeah. But that’s not. that’s well that’s on you anyways. That’s not going to be that expensive. They just need the asphalt for the outside, not for the interior. Right. Yeah. It’s just the, just the outside out the park.

Well yeah. Storage. Yeah. Yeah. Just gotta make sure that I’m not parking cars. So if something happens, you can’t. Get. food. Yeah, exactly. And, and a little bit of, uh, site plan, you know, showing the fences and the plan review. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, signage, lighting, that kind of stuff. Right. We need to see that.

But yeah, I think that. Was. Is that on there? I think there was a garden. And parking like. And where you’re gonna put the cars like the lawn, you know. How many cars are you looking to, to put on there? Um, I don’t have a set number.

Enough. So we probably should set a number. Yeah, yeah. Just so you have it on your. Uh. The previous license was. Didn’t have a number. Yeah, that was that was that license was issued a while back. Yeah. Class two usually has a number. Now two class. Use these one as a class two. Do they. Do you

specify numbers of cars. On the other ones in. Individual license. Yeah. So as built site plan. Right. Yeah. And uh, and the site plan should include the number of cars. There. And then essentially that’s like a, uh, container that you, that you put. Um, I mean, we can we do have it. It’s right here. It’s the

fee for the consultant is 6000 plus 1200 for each 10,000ft. So, I mean, we have the ability to waive that down to a more reasonable, um, number, but still make sure it’s enough to fund. I don’t see an engineer being needed. So. Well, he’s got it. Well, that’s on him. He’s gonna have to get

it drawn up. Yeah. We know. Yeah. We’re not gonna have Zach just do us a look at it or not even know. We don’t even really need to. It’s up to the board. I mean, what do you think? Um. You wouldn’t be doing a full blown. No, not a site visit, just a a local.

To make sure that everything’s there. Yeah. So, yeah, he has a, like, a reduced fee for. Yeah. For that he has a good knowledge of how us like it might. You know, he might say this should be you will also need the, uh, fire department to come in and just, uh, see

check it out, see where the walls are, see where they go, yeah. So, yeah. And they’ll have a fire extinguisher. Yeah. Fire extinguisher. Check. Fire extinguisher. Check. Every year. I know the company just came in there as of last week. Yeah. Just call. The. Comments. They’re gonna look at them.

Yeah. I don’t think this is going to be. I mean, the up front seems like a lot, but you’re gonna get most of that back. Yeah. So I know obviously I get it. Once you once you fill in the application and you, you have everything ready, we can have a better idea. What? We could

maybe waive this down to. I submitted all that. Well, we need we need a site plan with the parking spots. And so. You need from. The site plan. And I had process, I grabbed a whole bunch of stuff and I didn’t. Oh yeah. And a flow of traffic where you signs are going to be

your setbacks, where the building is on that piece of property. That’s the site plan. Yeah, yeah. So it’s, so you need a site plan for me and you need after you have the site plan, then you can tell me what I need to. Site plan an as built I think is what you really need.

Well I would have to get that from the town. Back, but. Oh from Outback. Unless there’s an existing house built. Does that not new. So what’s what is there? I don’t know how good the records are. Should be on this. They may have. It’s not dated. Oh, there it is. Was they? Uh, February 20th, 20. Was Covid

set of plans. Yeah. I mean, nothing. Would have. I mean, Outback. probably has it. Yeah, they probably do. All right. So let’s get the site plans. The most important thing anyways, that’s and if that has the dimension dimensions on it, then, uh. Zach can determine if

he wants an asphalt or not. I don’t think it’d be a Zach on this one. So show the parking, the lighting, the signage of cars. Um, what else do we need to look at? Is line of sight is not an issue. They’re fine. I assume you’re going to be removing those barriers. The concrete barriers are no.

I took a few of them away because when I first moved in, there was you could barely fit a truck and trailer through. Yeah, because he didn’t want anybody’s running around in there. Yeah. And so I opened it up quite a bit. Yeah. If I

could get rid of all of them, I would gladly do that. I thought I had to. You know, you can get rid of them. You can. Also. So you can put all that in your site, plan what you want. And you know. So that’s one of the when when we’re in Bridgewater, we had to

have some pretty dinky wooden sign. Yep. Thing up in the front. Mhm. But you put that guardrail thing up. Yeah. I don’t know if. Do I need something. There’s nothing stating that you need anything there. Um beautiful. Yeah I don’t, I can’t think of anything. I mean you just, you have to make sure that you’re set back

with you, with your cars. Were you parking them? Yeah, I know. Once it’s cars on there, people are not going because people were just hanging out there. That’s what the problem was when they put the Jersey barriers. People would just track the trails and park there overnight. No big open parking lot. Do we know that when.

You go by car dealerships on the road, do we know. That he. doesn’t need some type of a lot of a lot of car dealerships that by their. Preference or. A lot of college dealerships put balusters up to prevent theft. So you can’t just drive them out? Yeah. I mean, so maybe he wants something there.

That’s up to him. Yeah. And if you are going to do something like that that’s going to be on the site plan. Yeah. But um. Yeah. I. Don’t know. I don’t know much about the last very big one. Yeah. I don’t think it’s. It was nice. Yeah. I don’t think. It’s not neat.

I’ve looked over the Berkeley bylaws in the auto. I’ve never seen anything like that required. I can’t. It’s very vague. It’s it it is very, very vague. So I wanted to try to have. But it’s. I mean, one that were operating as a camper, they had them right out to the edge of the road.

Oh, yeah. The campus. Yeah. They brought them. Right to the line. Yeah. Well, we get a chance to set a better precedence then. Yeah. But I mean, not not to make it. So when he does the site plan review, we’ll see where he puts his pocket off

the side of the road. You know what I mean? He’s got to put the lines in lines either. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s gonna determine where your setback is. Just. Is there a requirement for the setback? Oh you know, that’s. That’s so I think your. Engineers kind of have to answer. A lot of questions. Yeah, yeah. They design.

That sort of site plan is you’re going to want some of us, and they may tell you that that is required, um. For that type of business to have a little guardrail or something. I don’t know. Yeah. Because that way you’re out there, you’re gonna have cars pulling up right in front of your cars. They already do.

Now that’s what I’m saying. So you’re going to need enough space to have them pull in front of your cars, and you don’t want them in your cars? No. I’m actually kind of shocked because where we were in Bridgewater was right off the highway. And there’s more

people that pull up and stuff in Berkeley than ever pull up in Bridgewater. Because it’s easier. 104 is a tough road. I mean, they still should know they’re in Bridgewater all the time. But I. Mean, you get. Good exposure.. Really. Oh yeah. Right near the highway. Well I know you’re right near the highway, but I’m just

really surprised there’s traffic there all the time. They walked in there in the middle of the day on a Friday. One time they. Walked by. At one.. Take those. Things off the bottom. They used to be like, oh my, come on. Something. Anyway, because one is out of their. Own, right? I mean, they walk right behind.

Wow. Yeah, that’s. What I mean. Yeah. Like it’s. Crushing. This building. Yeah, but you do you you do have that fenced in area too. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean. So you’ll be able to keep it. Oh yeah. No, no, it’s not so. Awesome. But that’s. Right I.

Think. It should be under center section two. 30 days of construction. That’s a. Crazy accident a month there, if not more. That’s probably more than that now. For away there, because probably at least a dozen accidents a year there. Did you have this plan done? Uh, no, I got that from, uh, runs at I don’t know what it

was. Mm. He’s he’s crazy. Thinking about selling it with this. That’s probably. Why he has done. But, uh, out back pretty good. Check with Joe. He has any. You know what I mean? They’ll have a head start on everything because they. Already did this. Yeah, yeah, unless you have it. Looks like

they’ve got a setback already, so. Yeah. It’s good, but the barriers are. Yeah. Jersey barriers. So those Jersey barriers have been there for six years. Now at least. Yeah. Wow. pre-COVID yeah. Really. Yeah. Well I think if they were all on the plan and they were set,

you know, and if you wanted and they’re not and he wants them, then you know, set them a certain distance. Yeah. For him it’s gonna, it’s going to impede the view of cars. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Pleasant to look at. Yeah. No they’re not I don’t I don’t like them. But I mean again over there.

You might want to leave something on the corner. Honestly for some protection. That’s an up and coming area for the town. So it really is it really. It’s a great spot. We like it to look great, build it. Yeah I mean I think you do a lot of higher end cars too. If I remember from Bridgewater.

Right. Yeah. Like really nice stuff. Yeah I noticed the Bentley. That’s why I said the Bentley before I drove by. I was like, I bought a truck from you, your dad, whoever owns. Oh, really? Back in oh seven. That would have over in that building or Home Depot is. What home across from Home Depot before it was

reconfigured, I think. Did the state take some property and you guys moved back on the back in like 070607? Yeah. When they put the other lane in. Oh, for. Me, my dad on the entrance, Home Depot, Home Depot wanted to go in the town, turn him down. When putting their exit

on the other side. So Home Depot had to move us across the street. Okay. Yeah, it was. You’re still on the other side of Home Depot, next to Emma’s. Yeah. Sorry. So, yeah. Okay. Setback requirements greater than the minimum it required. So, yeah, I think the engineer just needs to go through and see what applies.

Right. So what are your thoughts? Just so you’re thinking no Jersey barriers are cars. There. Um I. Know not necessarily Jersey barrier but no barrier at all. Just I want to put something I don’t know what that something is yet, whether it’s a kind of a change or just a suggest. Yep. Stay over there or.

Like a post and rail. Something simple would be a lot nicer. That’d be aesthetically, oh my God. Because, you know, we should be careful. That side of town is trying to have it look nice. It’s better. Yeah, yeah. And not too well. Not property they had throw that on you.

But the property they had in in in Bridgewater was very well kept. Yeah. The building was very nice. Yeah. Everything was always in line. It was I’m pretty sure you, you, you’re using your father’s business model. Right. So those jersey barriers driving nuts. Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. That’s nice. All of us, all.

Of us park behind a jersey barrier last week and it just. Yeah, I saw that. I mean, literally like like, uh. Like, but it’s like. Literally like posts and just a rail. Or a rope or something. Or something. Something. And you can do it on the site plan.

But I think it would, it would, it would enhance the appearance a little bit of a aesthetics. What’s the condition of the pavement? Look a lot better. Than that. I mean, we have put a lot of effort into I thought it was in rough shape keeping that corner that the building of the strip

mall, but not going to pay. But you’re just going to use it like that. I’m all for this, but I think I think a little effort to make it look good, at least right at the I got you, I got you, yeah. You you good? I would agree that. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right through the place.

But yeah I understand the building is what it is. Yes. And I’ll keep.. Do you agree with that. Like, I mean that’s not much to. Ask a robot. Yeah. No, I think it’s simple, but just a clean barrier. Yeah. I think he was using all for storage. That’s winter storage at two. Yeah, I know the history.

Of any kind of a commitment. Thing does. Right? If we go wrong, it’s what it is. You got a nice plot. It’s a nice spot. Yeah. You know, and I agree with you, Elise. And you don’t know what the future is, because what you gotta do for now. But nice. You know, decorative. That’s a.

Yeah. All right. Pretty low. Visibility there. So you you got what you need from you. What you’re gonna need do nothing. For the road. Nope. So evenly spaced and and. Yeah, you. Know. Yeah, it’ll dress that corner up. Yeah. Just get an engineered plan. And you know what you set

back. So you you put you put your parking lots and lines in there, you know. All right. So essentially that but with a little more info. On it. Yeah. Correct. And then we can then we can discuss what we’re going to um, do for you as far as fees and stuff, I

think we definitely have a little interest in something, some type of border for the corner, like if it’s just a six by six post, evenly spaced, who’s gonna rail post in something for the corner? I know, but if we don’t ask them to do it, it might not get done. You may not know, but you

said that three times. My other. Thought too is I don’t. Know how. I don’t know how familiar you guys are with Bridgewater, but like, and, um, Bob King Jr Precast makes those blocks. And at Burr’s in Bridgewater they have it’s like two blocks and that has a topper on it.

Yeah. Is that what are you planning to do something like that. Eventually. But yeah like I said once yeah. Once I have more than you know, I’m here for six years, then. Yeah. Once I know that there’s a long term future for me, then. Yeah. Then I’ll. I have no problem and definitely want to clean it

up and make something. There’s a little barrier there. Whether it starts off, as, you know, a small fence and someday it turns into. Yeah, I think some just here any type of border that’s clean looking. I like to you had a brick wall. Oh, nice. Yeah. Because it’s still it was still country enough, you know.

And not it didn’t look industrial. It’s and it was a nice it protected you. Yeah. So we can improve on that look. Oh, God. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. You know what that looks like, right? Yeah. It’s like a contract. Yeah. Yeah., yeah, I would definitely look better. Looks good. I bought a ten.

I’ll keep that there. Oh, one of the Viper. Viper two door. No, no I bought a two door back in 0607. Now. 10661. Yeah. It was a six speed. Yeah. I used to buy those things. All the time. Yeah. You got used to always have them. Yeah. Those. He. But there was a lot in the book.

I got three speeding tickets there but I drove it away. Was it. Yeah I got pulled over three times that day and I bought it. So I’m good. I just gotta get you that plan. And, uh. Yeah. Do I have to do the next planning board meeting the other two, or can I drop stuff off.

As I, you know, you could drop stuff off, right? Yeah. You can drop stuff the the, um. I know I’m sweating. It’s hard. Can we open the door, bro? Yeah. I don’t know what happened to me, but. Oh, I think did they cover the thermostat? I think over there. We can’t.

So. So you know what you need then. Yes. All right, I’m good. Good luck. Thank you. thank you. Is that a lot? It is not. We just have to. It’s tricky to close. So make sure that when we close it, it’s. Or we. Can’t close.. It doesn’t want to close any. All. There you go.

Oh, it’s hot around there. Oh. Make it make this quick. Then hold tight. Yeah. And then I get something like. BC lan. Okay. Bc land might start us off. Oh okay. CC Lane review and discuss inspection report from EGI regarding roof infiltration system and legal opinion on deeds for the properties.

Okay, so I sent this to you earlier from Adam. Um, okay. Let me see if I can find. Homes, be miserable. Yeah. Okay, so just to recap, the infiltration systems were supposed to have been inspected, submitted to us two weeks prior to installation and and approved by Zach prior to

installation. Um, that did not happen. So now, um, after the fact, Zach has inspected them. I have not heard from him. From Zach. I don’t think. Definitely didn’t. And then the other thing is the deed. So and I will warn you, um, no warn you, but printing things out is going to be

minimized because the cost of paper has gone, skyrocketed high, and the budget is, um, an issue with supplying paper to the building. So we’re going to try to minimize what we print out. So what I send you, um, well, you know. Well. Keep it on your phone or your PC or whatever. You got your

laptop, bring it with you. Um, this is the. Okay. The second paragraph is basically what we need to pay attention to. I think I have a couple of these printed. It’s a question of the wording of the deed and do we want them to include it. And you’ll see Adam’s pros and cons I guess for. Division.

Covenant. Is how they’re coming back. Most of. The way through. What what. What do we want to do here? We’re gonna hold this seal. So when when we give the answer, bear in mind that we also have a second home that’s going to go through this process as well. And as Adam is asking that one that we remind

them how it is supposed to happen for the second one, because I think the leniency, if this happens again, um, you know, um, but it doesn’t sound like a bad idea to me to have them put that in the deed, the wording and the deed that he’s

asking about. Have to take the legal fees at the end of the night. Um. So basically saying that this one’s okay, don’t let them do that in a second one. Yeah. And put this wording in. Yeah. But saying that it’s a poor decision because it. Could go well I understand that. Yeah. Hey. It’s the one.

Yeah. That’s all right. I think we need you though. All right. So what do we what’s, um. So what are we gonna do? This recommendation, I agree, I think so, yeah. You that a motion? I didn’t make a motion. Do you need one? Yeah. Let’s do that. That way. It’s. It’s settled.

Um, so the motion will be to accept the recommendation. Um, from Adam Costa. Um. To. Oversee the the first applicant and, um, make notes on the deed for the second applicant to ball through. I have a motion. I’ll second the motion. Motion? And second, any discussion? Second, have to follow through. Yeah. Yes.

Okay. So and by that you mean to have them add the wording into the deed. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. For the second. Okay. Yeah. For the second property. Second. Yeah. Second applicant for property owner. Okay. No discussion. Nope. Call for vote. Hi. Hi hi. And I would just, um, as soon as I get that from Zach, I’ll

forward that around. And I would like to just be pretty great. So what I want to do proactive and say that if we get a positive review from Zach on this infiltration system, that I am able to go ahead and give these people the okay to fill it in the..

That was BC. Yes, I agree with that. Okay. Yep. So we got what old Anthony left. Yep. Yeah. All right. Old Anthony Street reviewing the. From Zach. Oh wait. Zach give them okay. And one other thing we have since Heather’s here I have another covenant to do as well.

All right. Did you want to give me back that legal advice? Because I, um. Yep. Put it back in here. Thank you. All right. What are we going? So, Grimaldo, please, has rescinded itself, and we have begun the process to return their unused funds. We just need. The final thing is to release their covenant as well.

Okay, so I’d like to make a motion to. Um. Release the covenant for lots one and two. For Grimaldi. Please. Yeah. Motion. Second motion. Motion and second. Any discussion? Seeing none. Call for vote. Aye. Aye aye. And that is a unanimous. Okay. So we have two covenants. When it comes back to. What you going.

Up to I don’t know. So that’s time bonds. But she’s. In the building. Maybe she went to get her stamp. Where’d you go. We didn’t have a motion there sir. And did you say there was one other thing? Was there? You just gotta do all the Anthony. All the Anthony.

All the Anthony Street review and discuss inspection reports and reports. Yeah, that. Reports from EGA and Highway Department to confirm requirements have been met to allow building permits to be issued. Yeah. Oh, goodness. Fingers work. The poll I’m guessing. Still that’s. Still on the street. I, I thought they should have put a

barrel in front of the poll, not just say she had taped to it, but. Yeah. And we can certainly. Let’s take care of how this we can and we can. have them do that. Have you. Someone can you cut the tape or break the tape? And then right now, why don’t you take.

It’s up to you. Let’s you can wait. All right. The last thing. We’re on. The last thing? Yeah. Okay. I have two of them for you to do. Sorry. Let me call you back again. All right. I’m done. Oh, I can. Nothing from Rob. Yeah. Once from Rob. I got one. Oh, no. No, I got two.

Point issue. I don’t know if it’s an issue, but he has a he noticed something. Yes I agree with him. That means the pavement needs to come back out to Anthony Street. It stops at, uh, and, uh, allergy way. Now is that something that can be taken care of when they do the top coat? Or do.

You know they got to put a binder there. They want a binder there. Yeah. I agree with this. That’s. I noticed that, um. It was over there the other day that it stopped. Yeah. And I guess that wasn’t like the impression that he got when we had all those meetings.

Thinking they probably stopped there because the other road. You know what I mean? We’re. But, um. What is that? I like? I always thought algae. All right, I’m gonna call it algae. So algae is now going to run off of old Anthony, not off of Anthony. Yeah. And actually, the Matt is looking into having that

telephone pole moved. Yeah. Why hasn’t that been done.? 12 takes a while. It’s not. Horizon. Oh is it. Yeah. Horizon is the one that’s been holding them up. I had no idea that they. Monopolized. Like that new transfer station pulling on please. All right. So how do you feel then?

It’s a no go. Yeah. We can’t we can’t we can’t prove that. There’s no binder. The binder is not coming back out to the towards the baseball field. Then it comes out, but it stops it. Um, I can. Show algae. It doesn’t come back up again. So all the Anthony is the actual road.

That’s there? Um, yeah. So algae, I don’t know the real. Oh, that’s. The. The baseball. Right. That road is going to continue off of old Berkeley now old Anthony. Yeah. All right. Here’s here’s some color photos. Just make sure I open it that. It’s by ten color glossy photos. This is Alice’s

restaurant. Yeah. So that’s the other road. Yes. So you’re saying it’s not paved all the way to it, huh? No, it’s. This has to come down back down to Anthony. Not stop. Oh, I see, oh. See that stop at the gravel algae. Uh, now I get what you’re saying.

Okay. Yeah. That’s right. I route that’s the entrance to the ball fields. Yeah. So you’re saying that this needs to be paved road will go right? So people go to paved. So what’s going to happen entering the ball field? So the. Internet is going to. Be out there and the ball field is over here. That’s not.

But you’re coming. In but. You still come. You’re coming in that way. Yeah. That’s that’s a that’s. Okay. So here’s what happens. This is they call it a legging road that comes in and it goes up to that house. Right. Yeah. So that road is not really there because all the Anthony

was you want to see this go right to that. So the Anthony’s come out to Anthony and then that dirt road will come off of old Anthony. Got it. In two weeks. So how would you describe this. How did Rob describe it. Was the. Beach that the pavement needs to come back out to Anthony

Street? Uh, his. description is the second. Um. Oh, we’ve he had the pole. Okay. And he said the second thing is at the intersection where it meets the ball field, a small section of road wasn’t paved. The original agreement was to connect the pavement completely at the ball field entrance. Yep.

Which means back down to Anthony Street. So all the Anthony’s should be completely paved. Okay. So. All right, all down with. Old Anthony. Right to Anthony. Yeah. So Anthony. Yeah. Old Anthony always craved. And I’ll have him reach out to. And then pull out here. I’ll let you. And then ball fields. Oh is that how that.

Oh so so they would have to like kind of square that off. No. They’re gonna have to go right to the Anthony. Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah. As agreed. So Algy way is actually gonna start pounding. Like you want to see something on. I just think if they just

put one barrel in front of that pole rather than just tape, someone cuts the tape. There’s nothing. No, no indicator in front of the pole. All right? I mean, wrapping around the pole. I don’t know, it’s not sources there or something. I mean, that’s crazy.

Yeah. I think at least if a barrel in front of the pole is not going to blow away, a kid’s not gonna pretend he won the marathon and run through it. I mean, what the hell is going. On out there? No one will drive their golf cart through it.

Oh my God. Yeah, that’s. That was my own point with that. Oh, you want about golf carts? It’s not a private road. You can’t have it. I know that’s just that’s just like the other guy saying, I can’t even say something about the noise in that commercial place across the street. Thank you. Over that one. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So. All right, so appreciate that. My color photos back I got it.. I think it’s in your best interest, sir, to accept the the two cups of data. I don’t know where it is. Oh. So, um, I guess, do you want to discuss. I don’t want discuss. The candidate that came in.

Oh, yeah, we can discuss that. I mean, he he still he still seemed interested even after the. Yeah, yeah. Um, I, I think he’s got some good ideas, too. Okay. Um, yeah. I mean, I think, I think it’s a very difficult to find people. And he definitely seemed like a, like

a person who’s on the up and up. available positive attitude. Yeah. He said he had a problem with like a Thursday, maybe third quarter he’s going to have. And I said I told him, I said we sit here at the end of the meeting and we pull out calendars. There we go. Next meeting. And if somebody says,

can’t make it, can’t make it, you make it a concession. You do a Wednesday, you do the next week. You do. Yeah. He goes, oh okay, great. Well so flexible. With that. I think he seems like a. Pretty good guy. I mean, 15 minutes with him. Yeah, that’s all we get. So what happened with the others.

But yeah. They never they just never responded back. No. Yeah. Because one of those other really like to have seen. Me too. And I’ll continue to try and reach out and see if there if I can. Get still. Yeah. There are others anyways. So yeah, if somebody steps. Back up that final agenda item is you.

What’s that though? Did you, do you reconsider? No. God no no no no I’m I’m done. Okay. I don’t know where that folder is, but we did receive a letter of resignation from Mark Oliveira, effective tonight. And I would like to say no, but, um, do what you have to do. Thank you for giving us your time.

Oh. Thank you. It’s, uh. It’s been fun. It has been. It has. It has been. I enjoyed it, but it’s time. It’s six years. I’m good. Yeah. So I guess you need to formally see Heather and sign up. I already did it. Yeah. Took care of us. Do me one favor,

please. Yes, sir. Just pick that up like an inch and drop it. Yeah. What is. Going on now? That’s a microphone drop. Drop. Am I ready? I am done. Drop the mic an inch. Boom! I’ll make a motion to adjourn. Second motion a second. All in favor? Aye, aye.